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		<title>By: Amateur</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Amateur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Amateur...&lt;/strong&gt;

starts in a few days. My lawyer tells me I face staturory rape charges...</description>
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<p>starts in a few days. My lawyer tells me I face staturory rape charges&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Munchi Mike</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>Munchi Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All,
It doesn't matter who called who what; it's obvious that we're all frustrated and horrified with this unbelievable horror that our time in life has become since 9/11. If it had just happened and gone away, that would be one thing. But it hasn't. It's in our face. Once you know, you can never forget.
To answer directly; the question on the table is " Why didn't they show us the wreckage?"  posted by Jesse (yayyyyyy).
Uh,...............duuuuuuhhhhhhh,.................
Okay, that was uncalled for, but for the benefit of those who think that there 'may have been' a 757, let me put it to you this way.
IF there was ANY video ANYWHERE with a 757 in it, it would be plastered on the front page of every newspaper on the planet; trust me.
With those kinds of dramatic images at hand do you even imagine that 'they' wouldn't wave them around like medals of honor ?
We'd have Pentagon 757 coming out our ears and dribbling down our chin if there was even ONE small shred of evidence to that effect.

So, let's consider this from a different tack. It's not about how much the missing jet weighs. It's not even about eye witnesses; most people don't know their asses from a hole in the ground anyway.
It's about  a couple of simple observations.

Two missing jets, and two decimated buildings.
No black boxes, unprecedented aerial stunts,
synchronised hijackings by incompetent pilots,
transponder failures and five simultaneous war games ,
ALL conveniently occurring at the SAME TIME !!!

THAT is too much.
That many co-incidences DO NOT JUST HAPPEN at the same time.
Never mind the swath in the pentalawn before the hit showing the aerial view of the approach path.
Never mind steel buildings falling in neat little piles for the FIRST time in history,
It's the molten steel at ground zero SIX weeks later that sounds alarms.
THAT is the evidence. Steel that wasn't slated to melt under those conditions STILL MOLTEN six weeks later.
Never mind that they found a passport at the site (oh please),
it's that they 'didn't' find the black boxes despite them being INDESTRUCTABLE.
THAT is too much of a coincidence.
For me it isn't that the video at the Pentagon is poor and indistinguishable; it's more that the rest of the 80 some videos have all been siezed and confiscated and destroyed - most likely.

It's by these ommissions that the conspiracy gets validity, 'cuz as you know, just like the goat and the eight year olds; the Secret Service DIDN"T hustle George Dumbyou Bush outta there.
In other words. By NOT waving pictures of jets hitting the Pentagon,
they're virtually admitting that there WAS NO  757; since if there was;
WE'D KNOW ABOUT IT.
There would be not ONE second hesitation slathering the media with 757's from 80 different camera angles.

So, the question,  "Why didn't they show us the wreckage?"

The wreckage was incriminating so they stuffed it into a box and hustled it outta there so qwik they didn't even wait for a truck. THEY DID IT BY HAND !!! on their shoulders.

And to obviate any further questions about flight path and damage on site, they covered the Pentalawn with dirt while the place was STILL SMOKING !!!

In the public domian, the requirements for proof are different than with criminal proceedings. In criminal proceedings, a guilt beyond a reasonable doudt is required before a guilty verdict can be returned.
In civil proceedings, only a majority is required to  convict.
That  majority HAS been reached, and with that it is inevitable that the piper WILL be paid. 
Should you need resources, I have compiled a whole heap of 9/11 links, over 300 of them for your research, encompassing all of the popular sites, videos and experts evaluations.
http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,<br />
It doesn&#8217;t matter who called who what; it&#8217;s obvious that we&#8217;re all frustrated and horrified with this unbelievable horror that our time in life has become since 9/11. If it had just happened and gone away, that would be one thing. But it hasn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s in our face. Once you know, you can never forget.<br />
To answer directly; the question on the table is &#8221; Why didn&#8217;t they show us the wreckage?&#8221;  posted by Jesse (yayyyyyy).<br />
Uh,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;duuuuuuhhhhhhh,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Okay, that was uncalled for, but for the benefit of those who think that there &#8216;may have been&#8217; a 757, let me put it to you this way.<br />
IF there was ANY video ANYWHERE with a 757 in it, it would be plastered on the front page of every newspaper on the planet; trust me.<br />
With those kinds of dramatic images at hand do you even imagine that &#8216;they&#8217; wouldn&#8217;t wave them around like medals of honor ?<br />
We&#8217;d have Pentagon 757 coming out our ears and dribbling down our chin if there was even ONE small shred of evidence to that effect.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s consider this from a different tack. It&#8217;s not about how much the missing jet weighs. It&#8217;s not even about eye witnesses; most people don&#8217;t know their asses from a hole in the ground anyway.<br />
It&#8217;s about  a couple of simple observations.</p>
<p>Two missing jets, and two decimated buildings.<br />
No black boxes, unprecedented aerial stunts,<br />
synchronised hijackings by incompetent pilots,<br />
transponder failures and five simultaneous war games ,<br />
ALL conveniently occurring at the SAME TIME !!!</p>
<p>THAT is too much.<br />
That many co-incidences DO NOT JUST HAPPEN at the same time.<br />
Never mind the swath in the pentalawn before the hit showing the aerial view of the approach path.<br />
Never mind steel buildings falling in neat little piles for the FIRST time in history,<br />
It&#8217;s the molten steel at ground zero SIX weeks later that sounds alarms.<br />
THAT is the evidence. Steel that wasn&#8217;t slated to melt under those conditions STILL MOLTEN six weeks later.<br />
Never mind that they found a passport at the site (oh please),<br />
it&#8217;s that they &#8216;didn&#8217;t&#8217; find the black boxes despite them being INDESTRUCTABLE.<br />
THAT is too much of a coincidence.<br />
For me it isn&#8217;t that the video at the Pentagon is poor and indistinguishable; it&#8217;s more that the rest of the 80 some videos have all been siezed and confiscated and destroyed - most likely.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s by these ommissions that the conspiracy gets validity, &#8216;cuz as you know, just like the goat and the eight year olds; the Secret Service DIDN&#8221;T hustle George Dumbyou Bush outta there.<br />
In other words. By NOT waving pictures of jets hitting the Pentagon,<br />
they&#8217;re virtually admitting that there WAS NO  757; since if there was;<br />
WE&#8217;D KNOW ABOUT IT.<br />
There would be not ONE second hesitation slathering the media with 757&#8217;s from 80 different camera angles.</p>
<p>So, the question,  &#8220;Why didn&#8217;t they show us the wreckage?&#8221;</p>
<p>The wreckage was incriminating so they stuffed it into a box and hustled it outta there so qwik they didn&#8217;t even wait for a truck. THEY DID IT BY HAND !!! on their shoulders.</p>
<p>And to obviate any further questions about flight path and damage on site, they covered the Pentalawn with dirt while the place was STILL SMOKING !!!</p>
<p>In the public domian, the requirements for proof are different than with criminal proceedings. In criminal proceedings, a guilt beyond a reasonable doudt is required before a guilty verdict can be returned.<br />
In civil proceedings, only a majority is required to  convict.<br />
That  majority HAS been reached, and with that it is inevitable that the piper WILL be paid.<br />
Should you need resources, I have compiled a whole heap of 9/11 links, over 300 of them for your research, encompassing all of the popular sites, videos and experts evaluations.<br />
<a href="http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html" rel="nofollow">http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 16:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanasc,
You are an ass.</description>
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You are an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: deanasc</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>deanasc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>110,000 pounds or tons, whatever.  Actually, Jesse... You call people an ass all too often.  Try not to be so sloppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>110,000 pounds or tons, whatever.  Actually, Jesse&#8230; You call people an ass all too often.  Try not to be so sloppy.</p>
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		<title>By: larry uzarski</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>larry uzarski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Folks,
         Lets put our focus where it needs to be.........The Truth!!!!! ELIMINATON of " THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!

All The Best
Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Folks,<br />
         Lets put our focus where it needs to be&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;The Truth!!!!! ELIMINATON of &#8221; THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>All The Best<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>By: Baraka</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Baraka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, please! The "no-757-hit-the-Pentagon" claim is the weakest argument in the 9/11 Truth portfolio, BY FAR. Let's stick to what we DO know, not what we don't. Hundreds of eyewitnesses said they heard explosions at the WTC. Similarly, hundreds of eyewitnesses said they saw a 757 slam into the Pentagon. Some were DOD personnel, many were not. You cannot trust the claims of one group of eyewitnesses and then completely discount the other group's claims when it doesn't suit your purposes. That kind of practice hits right at the very heart of your- OUR- credibility.

Please see these two critical links-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
[Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11]

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
[ The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory:
Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, please! The &#8220;no-757-hit-the-Pentagon&#8221; claim is the weakest argument in the 9/11 Truth portfolio, BY FAR. Let&#8217;s stick to what we DO know, not what we don&#8217;t. Hundreds of eyewitnesses said they heard explosions at the WTC. Similarly, hundreds of eyewitnesses said they saw a 757 slam into the Pentagon. Some were DOD personnel, many were not. You cannot trust the claims of one group of eyewitnesses and then completely discount the other group&#8217;s claims when it doesn&#8217;t suit your purposes. That kind of practice hits right at the very heart of your- OUR- credibility.</p>
<p>Please see these two critical links-<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html</a><br />
[Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11]</p>
<p><a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html" rel="nofollow">http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html</a><br />
[ The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory:<br />
Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics]</p>
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		<title>By: Passenger57</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Passenger57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh,I forgot - the guy who just wanted to "correct" Jesse-your first "correction" said : "If you want to be CREDIBLE . . . " This is not an insult,Fourbrick,but most people,when they read,somehow their brains overlook minor errors,because in fractions of a second,they know that planes don't weigh 110,000 TONS and their brain fills in "pounds" . If that doesn't happen,then they chalk it up as a typo,because it was obvious what the person was trying to convey.But don't worry,Fourbrick- if planes DID weigh 110,000 TONS,the Bush administration would STILL find a way to make it all go away except for a few hundred pounds of it. I wonder : if you see a typo in a newspaper,do you A) write the paper and tell them about the error, and B)lose faith in the credibility of the paper because of the TYPO ( and not because they stink anyway)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh,I forgot - the guy who just wanted to &#8220;correct&#8221; Jesse-your first &#8220;correction&#8221; said : &#8220;If you want to be CREDIBLE . . . &#8221; This is not an insult,Fourbrick,but most people,when they read,somehow their brains overlook minor errors,because in fractions of a second,they know that planes don&#8217;t weigh 110,000 TONS and their brain fills in &#8220;pounds&#8221; . If that doesn&#8217;t happen,then they chalk it up as a typo,because it was obvious what the person was trying to convey.But don&#8217;t worry,Fourbrick- if planes DID weigh 110,000 TONS,the Bush administration would STILL find a way to make it all go away except for a few hundred pounds of it. I wonder : if you see a typo in a newspaper,do you A) write the paper and tell them about the error, and B)lose faith in the credibility of the paper because of the TYPO ( and not because they stink anyway)?</p>
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		<title>By: Passenger57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passenger57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a POSSIBLE answer/non-answer : in the government's own OPERATION NORTHWOODS plan,passengers would board Plane A , take off,land in Place X - and ANOTHER plane exactly like Plane A would take off from where Place X , and that plane(remote controlled) would either be shot down by the US or set to blow up on its own - but before doing so would send a FAKE RADIO TRANSMISSION that they were being "attacked" . Pieces of the plane being fished out of the Atlantic would be on the evneing news , and rile up Americans for an invasion of Cuba.
    Left out of this plan is what happens to the passengers on Plane A. Maybe they get killed;they're already "dead" anyway . Maybe they all have aliasesand are relocated. But let's not waste time wondering what happened to the passengers just yet, because all that needs to be done is to show that big chunks of the Official Story is a lie,and the whole house of cards comes down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a POSSIBLE answer/non-answer : in the government&#8217;s own OPERATION NORTHWOODS plan,passengers would board Plane A , take off,land in Place X - and ANOTHER plane exactly like Plane A would take off from where Place X , and that plane(remote controlled) would either be shot down by the US or set to blow up on its own - but before doing so would send a FAKE RADIO TRANSMISSION that they were being &#8220;attacked&#8221; . Pieces of the plane being fished out of the Atlantic would be on the evneing news , and rile up Americans for an invasion of Cuba.<br />
    Left out of this plan is what happens to the passengers on Plane A. Maybe they get killed;they&#8217;re already &#8220;dead&#8221; anyway . Maybe they all have aliasesand are relocated. But let&#8217;s not waste time wondering what happened to the passengers just yet, because all that needs to be done is to show that big chunks of the Official Story is a lie,and the whole house of cards comes down.</p>
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		<title>By: oeo</title>
		<link>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=355&cpage=1#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>oeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The administration of your country have posted lists of people killed in a plane 
crash, they maintain, hit the Pentagon on 9/11. l i s t s  of people  k i l l e d .
Are these passenger lists  fabrications? They MUST BE if this was missile strike.
How can this dichotomy be explained. Where has every-body come from? Where did they go?
We have seen the photos and the facts of them utterly defy aircraft crash, but
passenger list memorials scream to the people louder than query of magic bullets.
Until this is explained, confusion will reign.Within confusion the laws are writ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The administration of your country have posted lists of people killed in a plane<br />
crash, they maintain, hit the Pentagon on 9/11. l i s t s  of people  k i l l e d .<br />
Are these passenger lists  fabrications? They MUST BE if this was missile strike.<br />
How can this dichotomy be explained. Where has every-body come from? Where did they go?<br />
We have seen the photos and the facts of them utterly defy aircraft crash, but<br />
passenger list memorials scream to the people louder than query of magic bullets.<br />
Until this is explained, confusion will reign.Within confusion the laws are writ.</p>
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		<title>By: asetech</title>
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		<dc:creator>asetech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, in Jesse's favor, he said 110 tons twice, and 110, 000 tons once in that one paragraph.  Also one of each elsewhere.... WHO F-ING CARES?
This is a blog, NOT an official paper.  I find misspellings and typos in his stuff all the time.  So I have a little giggle and move on.  I don't rush right over to bash him.  Most of us reading this have been down in this 9/11 sludgepit long enough, and are smart enough (I hope) to think around some small mistakes.  It's not like he's trying to fool anybody by putting in wrong info, shit happens.  Let's focus on the positive by spreading the word, not slicing our own throats.  That is all I have to say about that. No animals were harmed in the writing of this message. ;-)  Keep up the good work Jesse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, in Jesse&#8217;s favor, he said 110 tons twice, and 110, 000 tons once in that one paragraph.  Also one of each elsewhere&#8230;. WHO F-ING CARES?<br />
This is a blog, NOT an official paper.  I find misspellings and typos in his stuff all the time.  So I have a little giggle and move on.  I don&#8217;t rush right over to bash him.  Most of us reading this have been down in this 9/11 sludgepit long enough, and are smart enough (I hope) to think around some small mistakes.  It&#8217;s not like he&#8217;s trying to fool anybody by putting in wrong info, shit happens.  Let&#8217;s focus on the positive by spreading the word, not slicing our own throats.  That is all I have to say about that. No animals were harmed in the writing of this message. <img src='http://tvnewslies.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Keep up the good work Jesse!</p>
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