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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:01 am 
Bush and Christianity

Why is there not more discussion in the American public about Bush's 'perceived' christianity? Why has it not come into question at all? The man talks a good game but actions are louder than words. If he were a true christian, his policies would be different, he wouldn't be in this war with Iraq and he wouldn't be lying to the American public. Can anyone else see that he is just pandering to the christian right in the US? It makes complete sense and is quite smart on his part. Christians make up over half of the population in America, so winning them over gives Bush a huge advantage come election time.
Anyone else agree? Disagree?


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Yes, Lucas. As I just said in my last post, Jesus is a marketing tool to Bush. You have to admit, those Rs are clever but if they were truly Christian they would pay attention to Christ's messages to his people. The rightwingers do just the opposite of what Jesus taught. In fact, too many 'religious' people do the same thing.

Religion is something that one lives, not talks about. By their fruits shall you know them.


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Bush can slaughter as many people as he likes and destroy the environment...just as long as he loves Jesus.


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Greetings, Everyone.

I cannot judge George W. Bush. However, God said that I could identify His people in this present world by examing the 'fruit' or attributes that they produce/exhibit through the indwelling of the Spirit of God (e.g., love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc.) in their daily living.

Conversely, the corrupt 'fruit' of hatred, war, vengeance, greed, lust, oppression, lies, etc. bear the mark of the darkest of evil. No 'ifs', 'ands', nor 'buts' about it. You cannot serve two masters. You will love the one and hate the other. Period.

It is my belief that an authentic disciple of Christ will take on every attribute of Christ that is earthly possible. Whether a person believes that Jesus is the Messiah, and trusts in Him for their eternal salvation isn't really the 'rub' in this case. The 'rub' is that the man who occupies the oval office claims to know Him, yet behaves in a manner that is completely opposite of the nature of the Christ.

One more thought to chew on...if George W. Bush is a authentic Christian (as opposed to a Psuedokristian), why then, does he host a 'Mennorah Lighting Ceremony' at the white house instead of say, a 'Communion Ceremony', or 'Manger Scene Lighting Ceremony', or a 'Foot Washing Ceremony' at the white house?

I think I know the answer.

Your thoughts?

Harbinger


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Sure you canjudge him. Thats why you were given free will.


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 Post subject: Christ I've had enough
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http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/headline.html

Who has 25 bucks to spend on this site? Perhaps some devout christian can read some ChurchNewsLIES and report back to us.

Truth is not what it is; truth is what people think it is. A. Hitler
What luck for Rulers that people do not think. A. Hitler

I like the one about Laura Bush accusing her husband of bestiality as he laughs. That was on the Daily Show as well.

The christian view of the world as corrupt and evil has created just such a world.


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Read the writings of Robert Green Ingersol at http://www.infidels.org/library/histori ... ndex.shtml

Take a biblical knowledge test at www.ffrf.org

Read J. M. Allegro's The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth.

Dan Barker's Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist

R. Joseph Hoffman's Jesus Outside the Gospols

Morton Smith's Jesus the Magician

and especially read Barbara G. Walker's The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets

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The power of-the mind is GOD


Shhh!

Don't tell Andy Buckshot that! We don't want him to have super powers!

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Harbinger wrote:
Greetings, Everyone.

I cannot judge George W. Bush. However, God said that I could identify His people in this present world by examing the 'fruit' or attributes that they produce/exhibit through the indwelling of the Spirit of God (e.g., love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc.) in their daily living.

Conversely, the corrupt 'fruit' of hatred, war, vengeance, greed, lust, oppression, lies, etc. bear the mark of the darkest of evil. No 'ifs', 'ands', nor 'buts' about it. You cannot serve two masters. You will love the one and hate the other. Period.

It is my belief that an authentic disciple of Christ will take on every attribute of Christ that is earthly possible. Whether a person believes that Jesus is the Messiah, and trusts in Him for their eternal salvation isn't really the 'rub' in this case. The 'rub' is that the man who occupies the oval office claims to know Him, yet behaves in a manner that is completely opposite of the nature of the Christ.

One more thought to chew on...if George W. Bush is a authentic Christian (as opposed to a Psuedokristian), why then, does he host a 'Mennorah Lighting Ceremony' at the white house instead of say, a 'Communion Ceremony', or 'Manger Scene Lighting Ceremony', or a 'Foot Washing Ceremony' at the white house?

I think I know the answer.

Your thoughts?

Harbinger



excellent post Harbinger

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Harbinger wrote:
I cannot judge George W. Bush. However, God said that I could identify His people in this present world by examing the 'fruit' or attributes that they produce/exhibit through the indwelling of the Spirit of God (e.g., love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc.) in their daily living.

Conversely, the corrupt 'fruit' of hatred, war, vengeance, greed, lust, oppression, lies, etc. bear the mark of the darkest of evil. No 'ifs', 'ands', nor 'buts' about it. You cannot serve two masters. You will love the one and hate the other. Period.

It is my belief that an authentic disciple of Christ will take on every attribute of Christ that is earthly possible. Whether a person believes that Jesus is the Messiah, and trusts in Him for their eternal salvation isn't really the 'rub' in this case. The 'rub' is that the man who occupies the oval office claims to know Him, yet behaves in a manner that is completely opposite of the nature of the Christ.



excellent post Harbinger


Your buddy Dubya isn't much of a Christian if you look at what he practices.

I can't believe that you've seen the light.

Say hallelujah!

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Obviously, buckyboots did not read Harbinger's post in its entirety! :lol: :roll:

W is not a Christian, as such. For example, Christians aren't "supposed" to lie, yet George lies everyday, and his most famous lies have led the nation into an unnecessary war along with a shrinking Coalition of the Duped. The world hates George Bush, and by association, the world now looks at America in the same way.
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President Bush, like most evangelicals (and most Americans), is intellectually mongrel. The likelihood that his thinking and his policies are shaped by a single, coherent, radical ideology is virtually nil.


He just pretends to be "Christian" in the usual interpretation because he has been told by his handler Karl Rove that it's good for his "image."

Some people believe Bush is a religious man...nothing could be further from the truth!

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Ronald Reagan became beloved of the "religious right" while rarely darkening the door of a church and articulating only vague belief in a vague God, while the church-going, Bible-toting Bill Clinton was despised by them.

I think this shows that, for the average conservative Christian in America, it doesn't matter whether a person actually shares their religion - what matters is that they mouth the right platitudes and act like they are creating Christian policies. Unfortunately, that makes conservative Christians in America look awfully bad.


(Source: excerpt from http://atheism.about.com/b/a/078430.htm)

I could not agree more!

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Bush and the porn star

George W. Bush, the "values voter" president, beloved of Focus on the Family, Traditional Values Coalition, American Family Association and the other organizations of the evangelical Christian Right, all of which are rabidly anti-pornography.

Well, apparently Mr. Bush is going to have dinner with a flamboyant pornographer and his porn star date. The June 7 story was spotlighted in a far-right publication that regularly features Ann Coulte and has published articles with titles such as "Throw out all female members of Congress!" From World Net Daily:

Last week, Carl Forti, communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee, explained to WND that self-described pornographer Mark Kulkis and his date, porn star Mary Carey, will be attending the two-day event, "The 2005 President's Dinner and Salute to Freedom," next Monday and Tuesday because their money is just as good as anyone else's.

"They've paid their money," he said. "No matter what they do, the money is going to go to help elect Republicans to the House."

For $5,000, Cary and Kulkis will be in the same room as the president one day and presidential confidant Karl Rove another.

World Net Daily ran a follow-up story later that evening in which Mr. Kulkis, president of Kick Ass Pictures, explained that he had been "personally invited" to the dinner. "I'm honored to be invited to this event," said Kulkis. "Republicans bill themselves as the pro-business party. Well, you won't find a group of people more pro-business than pornographers. We contributed over $10 billion to the national economy last year."

Ms. Cary is also very excited and enthusiastic: "I'm especially looking forward to meeting Karl Rove. Smart men like him are so sexy. I know that he's against gay marriage, but I think I can convince him that a little girl-on-girl action now and then isn't so bad."

Will Mr. Rove have to apologize and excuse himself from the table when Ms. Cary begins her "a little girl-on-girl action" argument? Will the GOP hierarchy have to apologize to Mr. Kulkis and Ms. Carey for canceling their $5000 tickets?

Not according to another World Net Daily (WND) storyabout an article by die-hard right-winger Jack Wheeler who advocated America's foreign policy -- and domestic political policies -- should be governed by a line from a 1948 John Wayne movie: "Never apologize, son. It's a sign of weakness."

WND and Wheeler claim "Some members of the Bush administration have taken" the cue. We'll see...


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Reprinted from CounterBias:
http://www.counterbias.com/316.html

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Lucas wrote:
Bush and Christianity

Why is there not more discussion in the American public about Bush's 'perceived' christianity? Why has it not come into question at all? The man talks a good game but actions are louder than words. If he were a true christian, his policies would be different, he wouldn't be in this war with Iraq and he wouldn't be lying to the American public. Can anyone else see that he is just pandering to the christian right in the US? It makes complete sense and is quite smart on his part. Christians make up over half of the population in America, so winning them over gives Bush a huge advantage come election time.
Anyone else agree? Disagree?



Damn straight, Lucas, damn straight.

Other things he wouldn't be doing include, oh, going to Sun Yung Moon's "coronation ceremony" or in fact taking that man's money at all...

(Let alone being offered it, heh...)


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