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 Post subject: Cheney Throws Down Gauntlet, Defies Prosecution for War Crim
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:51 am 
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Cheney Throws Down Gauntlet, Defies Prosecution for War Crimes by: Marjorie Cohn, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

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Dick Cheney has publicly confessed to ordering war crimes. Asked about waterboarding in an ABC News interview, Cheney replied, "I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared." He also said he still believes waterboarding was an appropriate method to use on terrorism suspects. CIA Director Michael Hayden confirmed that the agency waterboarded three al-Qaeda suspects in 2002 and 2003.

US courts have long held that waterboarding, where water is poured into someone's nose and mouth until he nearly drowns, constitutes torture. Our federal War Crimes Act defines torture as a war crime punishable by life imprisonment or even the death penalty if the victim dies.

Under the doctrine of command responsibility, enshrined in US law, commanders all the way up the chain of command to the commander in chief can be held liable for war crimes if they knew or should have known their subordinates would commit them and they did nothing to stop or prevent it.

Why is Cheney so sanguine about admitting he is a war criminal? Because he's confident that either President Bush will preemptively pardon him or President-elect Obama won't prosecute him.

Both of those courses of action would be illegal.


More at link. This should be interesting...

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Cheney knows what group runs the country. That group is apparently all about torture.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheney Throws Down Gauntlet, Defies Prosecution for War Crim
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Torture should only be used on people who believe in it, eh? Leave innocent people alone!

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Cheney's Legacy of Deception by: Robert Scheer, Truthdig
Tuesday 23 December 2008

One place to start is with the statement of retired U.S. Army Col. Larry Wilkerson, who was Colin Powell's chief of staff and who stated unequivocally that Cheney was the primary author of the torture policy: "There's no question in my mind where the philosophical guidance and the flexibility in order to do so originated - in the vice president of the United States' office."

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I seriously doubt that the Obama admin will begin it's first term with seeking war crimes charges against Bush admin officials, including Dick Cheney. There are just too many other problems facing our country that need and require the new admin's attention. Obama knows that and the criminals know that. BUT, I don't think it will be that way forever. Cheney, et. al will eventually answer for their crimes. It may not be soon..but it will happen. I'm just not sure who or what will actually make it so...I would hope it would be the Justice Department, but I doubt it.

Justice has a way of coming around, in many ways and forms, even though it may not take the form you and I would necessarily like.
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From PT's link:

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A growing group of advocates are now instead calling for a South African-style truth and reconciliation commission. Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, says that although "we know what went on," "knowledge and a change in practices are not sufficient: there must be acknowledgment and repudiation as well." He favors the creation of a nonpartisan commission of inquiry with a professional staff and subpoena power, calling it "the only way to definitively repudiate this ugly chapter in U.S. history."

But for those interested in tougher sanctions, one other possibility looms. Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights and author of "The Trial of Donald Rumsfeld," points out that over 20 countries now have universal jurisdiction laws that would allow them to indict U.S. officials for torture if America doesn't do it itself. A few such cases were attempted in recent years but were dropped, reportedly under U.S. pressure. Now the Obama administration may be less likely to stand in their way. This doesn't mean it will extradite Cheney and Co. to stand trial abroad. But at the very least, the threat of such suits could soon force Bush aides to think twice before buying plane tickets. "The world is getting smaller for these guys," says Ratner, "and they'll have to check with their lawyers very carefully before they travel." Jail time it isn't—but it may be some justice nonetheless
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