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i live in new york state, so the chances of a hurricane ever hitting up here are almost zero....

but, i have learned something valuable from Katrina: if i'm ever caught in an area that could be hit by a hurricane (or other natural disaster) and they recommended that i evacuate, i would...right away.

my reasons for doing so isn't so much for my personal safety from the impending weather, but the LAST thing i would want is for me, or my family, to be "rescued" and sent to a detention camp. you have just become a prisoner of the US government and will be held, against your will, because of a storm...not a crime. and you'll be forced to live like a refugee....oops...i mean an "evacuee".

the way these people are being treated is embarrassing in front of the world, that this actually happens in america.

so...if they tell you to leave an area...LEAVE before they "arrest" you and send you to a camp.

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This is long but a view from France who after all has a large influence in New Orleans. As well as the founding of America.

In 1927, a gigantic swelling of the Mississippi flooded New Orleans. To save the most handsome neighborhoods of the city, the (White) people in charge of the city allowed the floodwaters to invade the poorest zones of municipality; they promised to compensate for the damage, but they never did. At the same time, they gathered part of the black population into relief camps. But as armed guards blocked the exits, the relief camps also flooded. The racial violence which followed encouraged many Blacks to leave the city and to try their luck in the North.

African-American refugee Camp at Cleveland, Mississippi, 1927

[Editor’s Note: During the disaster 700,000 people were displaced, including 330,000 African-Americans who were moved to 154 relief camps. Several reports on the poor situation in the refugee camps, including one by the Colored Advisory Commission by Robert Russa Moton, were kept out of the media at the request of President Herbert Hoover, with the promise of further reforms for blacks after the presidential election. When Hoover failed to keep his promise, Moton and other influential African-Americans helped to shift Black Americans from the Republican Party to Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the Democrats.]

Huey Long on the Campaign Trail

These events also marked the beginning of New Orleans’ decline with the appearance of neo-fascist demagogue Huey Long, who seized upon the discontent to leave his mark on Louisiana. Elsewhere in the country, voices began to rise demanding that the Federal Government intervene in the event of a national catastrophe. These demands paved the way for Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal after the 1929 Stock Market collapse.

Two days after the catastrophe on August 29, rather than hitting the ground, George W. Bush went to California where he labeled opponents of the war in Iraq as nostalgic for "isolationism and of defeatism." Hardly a word from the compassionate conservative for Katrina’s victims, although he did utter his perpetual excuse, which had served him so well after the September 11, 2001 attacks: “who could have imagined?” Words even untruer today than they were four years ago. "I do not think anyone thought that the dams would break," said the President, in spite of the multiple warnings quietly issued for years by experts over the antiquated state of New Orleans’ flood protection systems.

On September 2, two days after his California escapade, George W. Bush finally went to Louisiana and Mississippi. To general amazement, he paid homage to a certain Michael Brown, the person in charge of the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA], one of those who has never shown any interest in New Orleans’ vulnerability, and who approved drastic cuts in federal funding to reinforce the city’s defenses.

Arabian Horse Expert Michael Brown

The generally held view is that the man [Brown], who previously chaired an association devoted to the protection of Arabian thoroughbred horses, knows little about his agency’s business and owes his nomination only to his connections. Thus, on the fourth day of the catastrophe he admitted to having finally learned of the presence of 15,000 refugees in the New Orleans conference center. It is true that, since the priority of priorities became the fight against terrorism, FEMA became nothing more than an appendage of the new Department of Homeland Security; the majority of those qualified to grapple with natural disaster have abandoned the agency.

According to a Census Office report published last week, 1.1 million Americans officially entered a state of poverty on 2004. The total number of citizens in poverty is now 37 million, that is to say 17% more than under the second presidency of Bill Clinton. According to the same source, the number of those without the benefit of health insurance has ballooned by 800,000 in 2004, now totaling close to 46 million people.

Asked whether he planned to maintain his legislative program as Congress ended its recess, George W. Bush answered in the affirmative last week. His program envisages in particular the progressive abolition of taxes on land, the reduction of taxes on income stock transactions and grim cuts in medical assistance, food stamps and Federal student loans. It is also expected that the minimum wage will remain at its 1997 level: $5.15 per hour. And what about income inequality, which continues to increase? Only 5% of American hearths saw their incomes rise in 2004, while 95% saw it stagnate or drop.

At the request of the White House, Congress voted a little more than $10 billion in aid for reconstruction in the South. The damage has already been evaluated at over $100 billion and members of Congress could soon spend up to $50 billion, even if that means digging themselves even deeper into debt, given the already-adopted tax cuts and the intervention in Iraq. And this while American growth is likely to be slowed by the rising price of oil. This is to say nothing of the nation’s morale, already depressed by the vexing problems in Iraq, which are inversely proportional to the price of the gasoline.

http://www.watchingamerica.com/liberation000040.html

Depends on where in New York. Long Island may be a target this year. I used to work at the Saratoga Race Way and Yearling sale upstate. Bostonian I am.

Back in line we are poised perfectly for Deja Vu! Some allies like Pakistan believe it is inevitable. The link posted has an excellent front page home. It is visited often by those in Intel that wish to read inbetween the lines.

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mga wrote:
i live in new york state, so the chances of a hurricane ever hitting up here are almost zero....

but, i have learned something valuable from Katrina: if i'm ever caught in an area that could be hit by a hurricane (or other natural disaster) and they recommended that i evacuate, i would...right away.

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so...if they tell you to leave an area...LEAVE before they "arrest" you and send you to a camp.


Yes, Citizen, stay in line. No talking please. This is what they WANT. Glad to see they have been sucessful in making another sheep. aGo quietly from your home, take the 2 grand they offer for your 100 grand house, and dissappear so the Neo-cons and their favored elkite can take over eveyrhting you worked your life to build.

We (all the americans watvhing the terror caused by FEMA in the south) can consider ourselves warned.

As to living in NYS..there are two diasters waiting to happen. The Seneca Weapons Dump and Nime Mile Point, a reactor so old no one remembers it decommission date anymore. And there are two *detention centers* stocked and ready to go, one outside Watertown and another somewhere (FEMA doesn't like to say exactly where they are) near Utica.

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