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Has American Democracy Died an Electronic Death in Ohio 2005's Referenda Defeats?
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman

While debate still rages over Ohio's stolen presidential election of 2004, the impossible outcomes of key 2005 referendum issues may have put an electronic nail through American democracy.

Once again, the Buckeye state has hosted an astonishing display of electronic manipulation that calls into question the sanctity of America's right to vote, and to have those votes counted in this crucial swing state.

The controversy has been vastly enhanced due to the simultaneous installation of new electronic voting machines in nearly half the state's 88 counties, machines the General Accounting Office has now confirmed could be easily hacked by a very small number of people.

Last year, the US presidency was decided here. This year, a bond issue and four hard-fought election reform propositions are in question.

Issue One on Ohio's 2005 ballot was a controversial $2 billion "Third Frontier" proposition for state programs ostensibly meant to create jobs and promote high tech industry. Because some of the money may seem destined for stem cell research, Issue One was bitterly opposed by the Christian Right, which distributed leaflets against it.

The Issue was pushed by a Taft Administration wallowing in corruption. Governor Bob Taft recently pleaded guilty to misdemeanors stemming from golf outings he took with Tom Noe, the infamous Toledo coin dealer who has taken $4 million or more from the state. Taft entrusted Noe with some $50 million in investments for the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation, from which some $12 million is now missing. Noe has been charged with federal money laundering violations on behalf of the Bush-Cheney campaign. Taft's public approval ratings in Ohio are currently around 15%.

Despite public fears the bond issue could become a glorified GOP slush fund, Issue One was supported by organized labor. A poll run on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch on Sunday, November 6, showed Issue One passing with 53% of the vote. Official tallies showed Issue One passing with 54% of the vote.

The polling used by the Dispatch had wrapped up the Thursday before the Tuesday election. Its precision on Issue One was consistent with the Dispatch's historic polling abilities, which have been uncannily accurate for decades. This poll was based on 1872 registered Ohio voters, with a margin of error at plus/minus 2.5 percentage points and a 95% confidence interval. The Issue One outcome would appear to confirm the Dispatch polling operation as the state's gold standard.

But Issues 2-5 are another story.

The Dispatch's Sunday headline showed "3 issues on way to passage." The headline referred to Issues One, Two and Three. As mentioned, the poll was dead-on accurate for Issue One.

Issues Two-Five were meant to reform Ohio's electoral process, which has been under intense fire since 2004. The issues were very heavily contested. They were backed by Reform Ohio Now, a well-funded bi-partisan statewide effort meant to bring some semblance of reliability back to the state's vote count. Many of the state's best-known moderate public figures from both sides of the aisle were prominent in the effort. Their effort came largely in response to the stolen 2004 presidential vote count that gave George W. Bush a second term and led to U.S. history's first Congressional challenge to the seating of a state's delegation to the Electoral College.

Issue Two was designed to make it easier for Ohioans to vote early, by mail or in person. By election day, much of what it proposed was already put into law by the state legislature. Like Issue One, it was opposed by the Christian Right. But it had broad support from a wide range of Ohio citizen groups. In a conversation the day before the vote, Bill Todd, a primary official spokesperson for the opposition to Issues Two through Five, told attorney Cliff Arnebeck that he believed Issues Two and Three would pass.

The November 6 Dispatch poll showed Issue Two passing by a vote of 59% to 33%, with about 8% undecided, an even broader margin than that predicted for Issue One.

But on November 8, the official vote count showed Issue Two going down to defeat by the astonishing margin of 63.5% against, with just 36.5% in favor. To say the outcome is a virtual statistical impossibility is to understate the case. For the official vote count to square with the pre-vote Dispatch poll, support for the Issue had to drop more than 22 points, with virtually all the undecideds apparently going into the "no" column.

The numbers on Issue Three are even less likely.

Issue Three involved campaign finance reform. In a lame duck session at the end of 2004, Ohio's Republican legislature raised the limits for individual donations to $10,000 per candidate per person for anyone over the age of six. Thus a family of four could donate $40,000 to a single candidate. The law also opened the door for direct campaign donations from corporations, something banned by federal law since the administration of Theodore Roosevelt.

The GOP measure sparked howls of public outrage. Though again opposed by the Christian Right, Issue Three drew an extremely broad range of support from moderate bi-partisan citizen groups and newspapers throughout the state. The Sunday Dispatch poll showed it winning in a landslide, with 61% in favor and just 25% opposed.

Tuesday's official results showed Issue Three going down to defeat in perhaps the most astonishing reversal in Ohio history, claiming just 33% of the vote, with 67% opposed. For this to have happened, Issue Three's polled support had to drop 28 points, again with an apparent 100% opposition from the previously undecideds.

The reversals on both Issues Two and Three were statistically staggering, to say the least.

The outcomes on Issue Four and Five were slightly less dramatic. Issue Four meant to end gerrymandering by establishing a non-partisan commission to set Congressional and legislative districts. The Dispatch poll showed it with 31% support, 45% opposition, and 25% undecided. Issue Four's final margin of defeat was 30% in favor to 70% against, placing virtually all undecideds in the "no" column.

Issue Five meant to take administration of Ohio's elections away from the Secretary of State, giving control to a nine-member non-partisan commission. Issue Five was prompted by Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell's administration of the 2004 presidential vote, particularly in light of his role as co-chair of Ohio's Bush-Cheney campaign. The Dispatch poll showed a virtual toss-up, at 41% yes, 43% no and 16% undecided. The official result gave Issue Five just 30% of the vote, with allegedly 70% opposed.

But the Sunday Dispatch also carried another headline: "44 counties will break in new voting machines." Forty-one of those counties "will be using new electronic touch screens from Diebold Election System," the Dispatch added.

Diebold's controversial CEO Walden O'Dell, a major GOP donor, made national headlines in 2003 with a fundraising letter pledging to deliver Ohio's 2004 electoral votes to Bush.

Every vote in Ohio 2004 was cast or counted on an electronic device. About 15%---some 800,000 votes---were cast on electronic touchscreen machines with no paper trail. The number was about seven times higher than Bush's official 118,775-vote margin of victory. Nearly all the rest of the votes were cast on punch cards or scantron ballots counted by opti-scan devices---some of them made by Diebold---then tallied at central computer stations in each of Ohio's 88 counties.

According to a recent General Accounting Office report, all such technologies are easily hacked. Vote skimming and tipping are readily available to those who would manipulate the vote. Vote switching could be especially easy for those with access to networks by which many of the computers are linked. Such machines and networks, said the GAO, had widespread problems with "security and reliability." Among them were "weak security controls, system design flaws, inadequate security testing, incorrect system configuration, poor security management and vague or incomplete voting system standards, among other issues."

With the 2005 expansion of paperless touch-screen machines into 41 more Ohio counties, this year's election was more vulnerable than ever to centralized manipulation. The outcomes on Issues 2-5 would indicate just that.

The new touchscreen machines were brought in by Blackwell, who had vowed to take the state to an entirely e-based voting regime.

As in 2004, there were instances of chaos. In inner city, heavily Democratic precincts in Montgomery County, the Dayton Daily News reported: "Vote count goes on all night: Errors, unfamiliarity with computerized voting at heart of problem." Among other things, 186 memory cards from the e-voting machines went missing, prompting election workers in some cases to search for them with flashlights before all were allegedly found.

In Tom Noe's Lucas County, Election Director Jill Kelly explained that her staff could not complete the vote count for 13.5 hours because poll workers "were not adequately trained to run the new machines."

But none of the on-the-ground glitches can begin to explain the impossible numbers surrounding the alleged defeat of Issues Two through Five. The Dispatch polling has long been a source of public pride for the powerful, conservative newspaper, which endorsed Bush in 2004.

The Dispatch was somehow dead accurate on Issue One, and then staggeringly wrong on Issues Two through Five. Sadly, this impossible inconsistency between Ohio's most prestigious polling operation and these final official referendum vote counts have drawn virtually no public scrutiny.

Though there were glitches, this year's voting lacked the massive irregularities and open manipulations that poisoned Ohio 2004. The only major difference would appear to be the new installation of touchscreen machines in those additional 41 counties.

And thus the possible explanations for the staggering defeats of Issues Two through Five boil down to two: either the Dispatch polling---dead accurate for Issue One---was wildly wrong beyond all possible statistical margin of error for Issues 2-5, or the electronic machines on which Ohio and much of the nation conduct their elections were hacked by someone wanting to change the vote count.

If the latter is true, it can and will be done again, and we can forget forever about the state that has been essential to the election of every Republican presidential candidate since Lincoln.

And we can also, for all intents and purposes, forget about the future of American democracy.

Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman are co-authors of How the GOP Stole America's 2004 Election and is Rigging 2008 available at http://www.freepress.org/ and http://www.harveywasserman.com/, and, with Steve Rosenfeld, of What Happened in Ohio, available from The New Press in spring, 2006.

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how long are we going to hear this bullshit about voter fraud, and bush stole the election. thats a dead horse , quit kicking it......if you are so convinced that it's true then use your american right and make a citizen's arrest and put someone in jail , just quit spewing the same old bullshit about voted fraud.

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na na bo bo we rigged the ballots and tricked you liberals again... :roll:

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Dead horse? The UN uses voting polls to judge the honesty of votes all around the world. When elections fall far from polls, it is a sign of troubles in the vote. Hardly a dead horse.

Just another brick in the wall.

Yeah the Neo-cons are made of teflon so far, but sooner or later they will slip up and the house of cards will come crashing down on all you mindless drones.

You should become the poster child for eugenics (a nice Neo-con agenda I think is made for you).

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how long are we going to hear this bullshit about voter fraud, and bush stole the election. thats a dead horse , quit kicking it......if you are so convinced that it's true then use your american right and make a citizen's arrest and put someone in jail , just quit spewing the same old bullshit about voted fraud.


For me, this issue has very little to do with Bush. What the issue really is, is the possibility of fraud. If this is not investigated, and proven with facts to either prove, or disprove this, then why have elections at all because this means that We the People vote really means nothing does it not? If fraud is involved then this issue MUST be corrected.

I have no problem with computers being used in an election, but something I feel MUST be involved is a printout which is also involved in case there is a dispute. With no paper trail, it is hard to prove anything either way because there is little physical evidence.

Lets leave Bush right out of this. Lets say that there was a candidate which you believed was the correct candidate for the office in which he was running, and another which you thought would bring harm to the office in which he was running. How angry would you be if you found out that your vote was either not counted, or went to the candidate which you were voting against? Would you not want to prevent this in the future?

I say to leave Bush out of this because this president to me has already proven his corruption in his actions, I can see him for what he is. If there does end up being even a possibility that there is fraud involved, I, as a voting member of society have no choice but to demand that an investigation take place, and corrections be made which never allow this to happen again.

Some may disagree with me, they may say that this is about Bush, but I say that this man is already in office, and the damage he has done has already been done. My desire for a full investigation into this is not for the sole reason of removing Bush from office, but to ensure that this never happens again.

No, I do not feel that this is beating a dead horse, this is in fact an attempt to make sure that this horse does not die. It is too important of an issue.

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So much for Gettysburg.
Nice speech Abe, but it did perish.

Government for the people, no longer of the people nor by the people.


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I agree with you, Eagle. I am astounded that normally conservative republicans, who I know to be at least relatively sane, can't see the *this isn't about Bush, it's about America*. They (conservatives) are usually the first to jump up and down about voter rights and reliability.

In all probability, I would say *leave Bush out of it* is a perfect plan!

I would be just as angry if this type of crap was going around about a Democratic Administration. The point is, our vote is our voice, and it must be protected from ALL parties.

As I have said before, you can't fight if you don't know who the enemy is. We bicker about Bush and Clinton, but the enemy continues to push the agenda forward. It's not Bush or Clinton. They are both, at best, dupes. Bush is, quite obviously, far too stupid to be masterminding this War against America.

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So much for Gettysburg.
Nice speech Abe, but it did perish.

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LOL. Is this directed towards me? Obviously this horse has not perished yet, but will perish if we allow it to. I stand by my statement.

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No Crimson, it wasn't aimed at you nor about you.

Just putting a reality check on Abe Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address".

Government of the People
By the People
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The machines and the programmers control the elections, not the PEOPLE that Abe had in mind.


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Dead horse? The UN uses voting polls to judge the honesty of votes all around the world. When elections fall far from polls, it is a sign of troubles in the vote. Hardly a dead horse.

Just another brick in the wall.

Yeah the Neo-cons are made of teflon so far, but sooner or later they will slip up and the house of cards will come crashing down on all you mindless drones.

You should become the poster child for eugenics (a nice Neo-con agenda I think is made for you).


But Al.... the mindless drones that continue to support the neo-con agenda are too fucking stupid to know they are being taken for the ride they won't return from...


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I found this in my travels this morning...

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Major Republican Donor Indicted in Ohio


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Thursday, October 27, 2005; 3:54 PM

TOLEDO, Ohio -- A coin dealer and major GOP donor at the center of a scandal in Ohio state government has been indicted in a federal investigation into contributions to President Bush's re-election campaign, his attorney said Thursday.

The grand jury was examining whether Tom Noe skirted campaign finance laws by having others donate money for him. Federal laws limit individual contributions to $2,000.

This 2001 file photo shows Thomas W. Noe at the Statehouse in Columbus, Ohio. A federal grand jury has indicted Noe, a prominent GOP contributor in an investigation into contributions to President Bush's re-election campaign, his attorney, Jon Richardson said Thursday, Oct. 27, 2005. (AP Photo/Will Shilling) File) (Will Shilling - AP)
Noe's lawyer, Jon Richardson, said he did not have any immediate details on the indictment. The charges were to be announced later in the day by the FBI and the Justice Department, and federal prosecutors would not comment before then.

Noe is also under investigation over an ill-fated $50 million investment in rare coins he managed for the state workers' compensation fund. Noe has acknowledged that up to $13 million is missing, and Ohio's attorney general has accused him of stealing as much as $6 million.

The coin dealer contributed more than $105,000 to Republicans, including Bush and Gov. Bob Taft, during the last campaign.

The Republican National Committee announced in June that Bush was returning $4,000 in campaign contributions from Noe.

An investigation into Noe's coin investments led to the governor's conviction in August on charges he failed to report golf outings and other gifts.



naughty naughty... but then the republicans are noted for their adherance to laws of the land... FOR THE OTHER GUY!

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I agree with you, Eagle. I am astounded that normally conservative republicans, who I know to be at least relatively sane, can't see the *this isn't about Bush, it's about America*. They (conservatives) are usually the first to jump up and down about voter rights and reliability.

In all probability, I would say *leave Bush out of it* is a perfect plan!

I would be just as angry if this type of crap was going around about a Democratic Administration. The point is, our vote is our voice, and it must be protected from ALL parties.

As I have said before, you can't fight if you don't know who the enemy is. We bicker about Bush and Clinton, but the enemy continues to push the agenda forward. It's not Bush or Clinton. They are both, at best, dupes. Bush is, quite obviously, far too stupid to be masterminding this War against America.


It is quite scary isn't it? It is as if those who support Bush have suddenly had a brain transplant. They are dead to objectivity. Bush can do no wrong. In their eyes, Bush won and we should shut up. There WAS tampering in Ohio. I, for one had to put my vote in a provisional ballot envelope. No one could tell me why. All they said was I had not voted in the last four years. WRONG! I had voted in the presidential election in 2000 and two other times after that. I am a registered Democrate in a predominately Republican county in Ohio. Why was my vote NOT counted?

We must do all we can to protect our rights as voters in this country. It does not matter if you are a DEM or a REP. If we lose our VOTING voice, then ALL is lost to ALL of us. I no longer have any faith in our voting process. This is very very sad.

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I no longer have any faith in our voting process. This is very very sad.


The very fact that millions of Americans are now having discussions about this subject indicates something is very wrong. Unpatriotic Republicans like Bucky know they must make every effort to remain ignorant of the theft of our democracy in order to retain ultimate power for their party.


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A long time ago a gang of people went all crazy about TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. They looted a ship full of tea, overthrew the ruling elite and established their own "peoples government".

What ever happened to that country :roll:

I think they called themselves " United States of America"

Looks like the issue of "representation" or lack of it is back.


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A long time ago a gang of people went all crazy about TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. They looted a ship full of tea, overthrew the ruling elite and established their own "peoples government".

What ever happened to that country :roll:

I think they called themselves " United States of America"

Looks like the issue of "representation" or lack of it is back.


Yeah, the Republicans are the modern day Tories. They wish to take away our democratic way of life and force all of us to live under the despotic rule of King George II and his heirs forever.

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