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Another Anti-War Fable Exposed
By Mark Noonan at 01:23 AM
You might recall that during the worst part of Hurricane Katrina the left - echo-chambered by the MSM - was trumpeting the huge number of dead in New Orleans as an indictment of President Bush and the entire GOP. Once the waters had receded, however, it was discovered that the loss of life was far lower than the first shouted estimates, and all of the dead could actually be laid at the feet of the incredibly incompetant and corrupt government of New Orleans. One thing our lefties like to do is toss around the number of dead as an un-answerable argument; and Iraq has been, as it were, a gold mine of "dead people proof" against President Bush. There's only one problem with the leftwing mantra about the number of civilian dead - it isn't true, as Logic Times describes:

One of the foundation blocks of anti-war protest against the United States in Iraq is civilian casualties, which viscerally represents a country in ruin, a tragic human face on Bush’s warmongering. This perspective, of course, ignores the civilian carnage during the reign of Saddam Hussein (see Fuzzy Moral Math) and instead focuses on the perceived chaos in Iraq today. And this newfound concern for Iraqi civilian life is not only a staple of the anti-war Left, it is a convenient club wielded by mainstream Democrats in Washington, who argue that chaos in Iraq represents failed policy...
This study (by Iraq Body Count) reports 24,865 civilian deaths in the first two years of the Iraq War, an apparent ringing endorsement of the "Iraq in chaos" position. But a curious statistical anomaly jumps right off page one: over 81% of the civilian casualties are men. Even stranger, over 90% of civilian casualties are adults in a country with a disproportionate percentage of the population under 18 (44.5%). This contradicts a basic tenant of the civilian casualty argument, namely that we are describing collateral damage during a time of war. Collateral damage does not differentiate between male and female, between child and adult. A defective smart bomb falling in a marketplace, stray bullets ripping through bedroom walls, city warfare in Fallujah – all these activities should produce casualties that reflect the ratio of men to women or adults to children that prevail in Iraq as a whole.


Ah, facts - the mainstay of conservatism, the bane of leftism. Simple common sense says that if there really were 24,865 civilians killed in Iraq then they would, at least roughly, mirror the demographic makeup of Iraq...given that 90% of the dead are adults in a nation 44.5% children, the "civilian" dead in the lefty report cannot be all civilians. In other words, just as bogus opinion polling in the United States has been used to give the impression of a collapse of support for the President, so has bogus studies of Iraq been used to give the impression that things are completely horrific over there. I have mentioned in the past, haven't I?, that the left lives on lies...it was born of a lie and can only be sustained by ever more lies as time goes on. Keep this in mind the next time someone tries to tell you anything about the war...if there's a leftwinger anywhere in back of the information provided, then there is a strong chance that it is at least incomplete, if not an outright fabrication.

Now, Logic Times goes on to note that there were, indeed, a large number of civilian deaths...but also points out that with this death rate (given the Iraqi population) an American has precisely the same odds of being killed in a car accident over a two year period as an Iraqi does of being killed by the alleged chaos in his country. This is not to say that each death isn't a tragedy...they are; but we must forever put to rest the hate-filled leftwing notion that American troops go into battle and just wantonly kill non-combatants (that is, after all, really what the left is saying when they say nearly 25,000 civilians have been killed by our troops in two years).

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Bucky, no one knows how many civilians have died in Iraq since your bloodthirsty leader invaded their country. The right-wing propaganda blog you so love to quote does not know how many innocent civilians have died there. Do you know why no one knows? I'll show you.

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Casualties in the Iraq war

Even before U.S. troops rolled into Baghdad and helped topple a statue of Saddam Hussein in Paradise Square on April 9, 2003, media organizations and human rights groups were complaining that no one was keeping track of the number of people killed in the war that started a month before.

Some observers believe that measuring the bloodshed on both sides of the conflict is a useful way to measure the progress of the war.

That's a belief not shared by U.S. or British military officials.

Gen. Tommy Franks, the top officer in the U.S. Central Command for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, summed up the American military's attitude when he told reporters during the Afghan campaign, "We don't do body counts."


You see Bucky, the shameless right-wing hacks, who write the trash which has brainwashed you, cannot possibly know how many civilians have died in Iraq, BECAUSE THE PENTAGON DOES NOT DO BODY COUNTS!


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