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 Post subject: Liberals VS. Conservatives
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:06 am 
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I posted a story in the chit chat area about "Crazy People." I talked about how this man cut my bf off and stopped his car in the middle of traffic, to approach my bf about my car's "Against abortion, then don't have one" bumper sticker. See:
http://tvnewslies.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4917
One thing I don't understand is how people think it's okay to threaten others because of their beliefs. I don't think that all liberals think like I do, and I don't think that all conservatives believe like this guy...but what makes you think you can threaten someone because of their beliefs? Shouldn't we be past that alreadY? Doesn't everyone understand the freedom of speech and choice? I'll admit, I see conservative bumper stickers on cars more often than I'd like to admit, that make me so mad I'm shaking with anger! However, I would never do anything to hurt that specific individual. The most I would ever do is pull the sticker off the car out of anger....and I've NEVER EVEN DONE THAT! I feal, though, that conservatives don't have the same respect. I've had friends that'd had their cars trashed...because of their bumper stickers! This is what makes me paranoid about expressing my views with bumper stickers on my car! That is also where my signature comes from:
"I may detest what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire
Freedom. Freedom of speech, press, religion, choice, etc. FREEDOM!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:31 am 
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As more and more of our freedoms are taken away, expressing ourselves and our beliefs may become even more restricted and dangerous. Our cars carry our tag numbers, which are traceable to our names and addresses via law enforcement officials. If we place controversial bumperstickers on them once the Torture Law is in effect, I have no idea what kind of trouble we may be inviting.

I'm not suggesting that you run out and rip your bumperstickers off your car, jobot. Nor am I suggesting that you run out and buy more. But we're all going to have to make personal choices as to just how much we are willing to risk to let our opinions be known in a public way.

We must educate ourselves about what this law is and what it can mean for all of us.

The current version of the Military Commissions redefines an "unlawful enemy combatant" (UEC) so broadly that it could include anyone who organizes a march against the war in Iraq. The bill defines a UEC as "a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States" or anyone who "has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense of the United States." The definition makes no reference to citizenship and therefore could be read to include any number of individuals, including:

* CCR attorneys and other habeas counsel, Federal Public Defenders and military defense counsel for detainees at Guantánamo Bay
* Any person who has given $5 to a charity working with orphans in Afghanistan that turns out to be associated in some fashion with someone who may be a member of the Taliban


http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/newsroom/relea ... ontent=849

http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/newsroom/relea ... ontent=846

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001637.php

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_N ... _0927.html

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