Ah yes spare the rod spoil the child. I see your Memes
are working fine on you. Everyone who has reasoned out the obstacles has figured out that the god angle is nothing but a scam, a snake oil salesman at your door selling potions of sadness and oppression. Love? What kind of trick are you trying to project? Oh right, you've got the REAL religion.
It is obvious this site is dividing between those seeking the truth and those who would have us believe in their illusions. Spare the rod- notice that most of those who are advocating violence as a solution to bad behaviour are of a religious inclination? Dee ann , if you actually read my full post, you would see that I actually stood up for the teachers and only included the real oppressive forces in life, like religion etc. If you don't think god is an oppressive force on the poor then your eyes are wide shut. The meek shall inherit the earth indeed- that and all its other miseries while the middle class schmoozes with its sleepwalking.
If children see parents, administrators, presidents, soldiers, using violence to solve their problems then what will children do? You figure it out. And as for jesus? I know he loves me- He loves me so much that he wants to KILL me. Hows he going to come back to earth? With LOVE and a TWO EDGED SWORD.
You People must be reading a different bible than I am. Have any of you actually read this nonsense? I encourage you to pick up your bible today and start reading it critically. There is nothing like a good old rereading to make you wonder how you got fooled the first/second time being born again. Why be born again when you can do it right the first time!
It's truly amazing how bad things are and you will paint a rosy picture of it or just exorcise it from your thoughts. Please allow people to express their views here- it has always been done this way and it is the only way the truth can be dissemminated. If you wish to censor truth there are plenty of boards that do that kind of thing. Jesse set a standard of excellence here that we shouldn't tamper with.
This is what Jesse The Founder
of this site said today-
TVNL Editor's Comments: Systemic Systematic Greed
Why are there annual cost of living increases? Why do people who profit from business or salary need to increase their profits every single year? Why are annual rent increases the norm? When is enough enough?
The reality of our world is that greed has become an accepted and dare I say expected personality trait in today’s world. Well I think this shows how human beings, mostly rich capitalist human beings have fooled themselves into thinking that they actually have values that are worthy of anything other than shame. We live in a nation that accepts rent increases and consumer price increases for no other reason than to satisfy the greedy people who can never seem to feel wealthy enough yet we refuse to extend the same cost of living increase consideration to the many people who earn the minimum wage.
We raise the cost of just about everything every single year and by not raising the minimum wage we are making the poorest people of this nation poorer; intentionally. There is not a single economist who will tell you that this model is fair to all. This model is designed to make the very rich much richer and redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top. It is a trickle up model.
Until the words “homeless” can not be used in the same sentence with words like “person” or “veteran” I don’t want to hear what the economists who have been controlling our economy have to say; especially those economists who have taken over our nation at the private for profit criminal enterprise known as the Federal Reserve. If you really want to measure your character as a caring compassionate person who is sharing a world with others simply think about what it would take before you feel that you have “enough.” Think about it! – Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org
I'm not trying to offend. It is important that everyone be aware that there is more to knowledge and understanding than what we have been taught. This is where we have to be strong and not give in to our fears about investigating all sides of an issue. Fear is the great mind killer and no one should live in fear. We need change, and if that means getting rid of the old evil god then that is what we must do. We don't need violence in this world and having violent gods will never help us to evolve past this primitive state we are hanging onto. The inclination is to ban and exorcise- our ability to eliminate debate by censure. This is an example of EXTREMISM and is all to consistent with religious/political extremist dogma. Don't fall for this doctrines of jealousy and shame. Threats and bribes are too much the god game to be taken seriously and imposed on children. We have to grow free of these society imposed restraints. Give the children what they want and need, not what you think they want and need. Perhaps we've forgotten what it was to be a child. Small and vulnerable a target for anyone, fear and insecurity are natural emotions that we instill in our children with the threat of punishment and bribing rewards. The gods/leaders would expect no less.
How come children instinctively know this is the wrong way to be and resist it? Are they closer to the truth than we are?
Give them real love and compassion by teaching them sharing and caring and not fear, indifference and obedience training. These are human beings, not some tool of their gods/parents or slave of the system. Give them what they really want- security, freedom, instruction, purpose and meaning- and most of all, your company. This sounds a lot better than fear and insecurity with a bandaid pie-in-the-sky promise of authorities attentiveness. Big god has become big Brother!
Imagine there is nothing THERE, and the world begins to look more real HERE. Imagine that when you die there is nowhere to hurry to and nature becomes more real. I know people would rather live with illusion, but it's getting too serious to count on unseen forces to do the work- It is time for us as humans to admit that we have a lot of work to do and we don't need some book(s) to tell us we're in trouble.
We need to define the problems and needs our society must face and answer those questions we wish to ignore. Like organized religion- what does it really stand for and how can we improve on it to make it safer.
Perhaps it is not belief that is the problem, but what we have been taught to believe!
You might also want to review what Jesse has to say about religion and its oppressive nature. Think about it!