lefty and jobot-------Please go to page #5 and read DO.G's very FIRST sentence and you will find your answer.

nice post again Dee

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" ? ..That was an answer to what question I asked exactly Dee?






Don't begin to cast your personal opinion of who I am on to me. Do you really think that you know me better than I know myself? You don't know anything about me, so don't pretend to.

How can her entire post not be taken as an insult? Jobot says something 1/2 as condescending and its locked right up!

Children I was born in the 30's. Women stayed home to raise their families. No females could work in a factory until WWll when all the young men were fighting for our country. Then they put women to work and learned a female could do the jobs after all.

In those days a female was expected to get married have and raise her family - therefore education beyond graduation was not necessary.

Back in those days men did not do womans work. They were expected to work and support their family. Therefore they were the bread earners.

Life back then was no eutopia. Almost everyone was recovering from the stock market crash. Money was scarce but everyone pulled their share and if a neighbor was in trouble (injury or illness) the whole neighborhood pitched in to help. Today a lot of people would not help anyone but would step back and laugh at them.


If a neighbor saw someone else's child doing anything wrong they could swat them and instruct them to tell their parents why. No lawsuits - everyone looking out for each other. Children usually told their parents rather than have the neighbor tell on them. (Good constructive fear).


We did not fear pedophiles - theives - robbers - murderers or gangs.

Real robbers hit banks not people in their homes.

Guns were plentiful for hunting food to put on the tables - not for children to take to school and shoot educators or classmates.

People raised food in gardens and canned it - all natural - no preservitives - prepared it and put it on the table to eat. A few of this generation has little knowledge about raising the food they have to eat and preserving it. That's truly a pity because the shape our world is coming to there may come a time when all will have to fend for themselves. Not trying to scare anyone just saying History does indeed repeat itself.

My generation respected our parents and all of our elders. We were taught to respect everyone and to have self respect and respect for everyone's property.

No it was no eutopia - it was a lot of hard work - but overall it was very happy times. My comparing today's events and my youth - sorry - today loses - hands down.

Our FOREFATHER's were uneducated but they were not stupid. They gave us a wonderful nation that is being torn apart by all of us poor underprivileged - that has it all - and are destroying it at the same time.

This ME - ME - I -I -WANT -WANT -it all at no expense to me generation has everything and still it is not enough. They can't realize the well is running dry.

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Instead, blacks and gays feared lynching and other various methods of torture. And women fear physical abuse and rape from their husbands because it was still legal.

I think you greatly over-exaggerate your time, while ignoring the benefits of our own.

You talk about respect, yet i see you made an entire post that was offensive and condescending towards another member. A member I have much respect for. If you have a personal opinion on someone, show her the respect you just bragged about so much and keep it to yourself.

You are absolutely right - I don't know you.

I did know my stepdaughter - living with her seven straight years and still willing to try to help her on three more occasions.

I hear you or I read your comments and I certainly do see my stepdaughter - alive and well and back for a fourth time venting against people you don't know either.

Deeann is indeed telling it like it was. I know, because my parents' own life stories would have been very close to what DA is talking about. My parents were very, very self-sufficient... poor, but very proud...they had land, and used it wisely...growing their own food, canning and freezing it, always being prepared against another "hard times." My father didn't retire until he was 68. Mom worked until she was 62. I'm fortunate that my parents taught me how to be just as self-sufficient, and for that I will always be grateful.

Imo, our own times wouldn't be what they are if those Depression Era folks hadn't passed along some of their experiences. To some extent, our times are also the way they are because those same people didn't want their children and grandchildren to have to go through the difficult times they did.

I also think she told it the way it was. I remember EVERY day coming home to a sandwich and a glass of milk. We ate supper at the table as a family.

When my dad said something you did it or you suffered. He drove truck for almost 30 years, not the super trucks they have now, but, the old ones, with no air, seats that bounced you all over hell.




As far as I know that was never legal. Please show us where you got this information from? You continue to make statements without proof.

Yikes... I have no easy solution for you, sadie... short of maybe trying to find a teaching position at a college instead of where you are now...

jobot? most junior high students are no longer the small defenseless children you are defending... they're big... they're strong... and often times, they're armed...

these kids sound like juvenile delinquents, on the road to the big house... they deserve some time-outs... maybe a stretch at a boot camp for miscreants...

and obtw, only cowards strike women...

Good Luck...

Did the district charge the parent for the destroyed property? Did you press charges against the kid for stealing?

Yes... but discipline should take place at home not in the class room. If the children are unruly, punish the parents... and no, I haven't fully thought that out as to how...