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 Post subject: Secretary Defends Guantanamo Bay
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:28 am 
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National : Secretary Defends Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Posted by Senior Editor on 2005/6/15 0:39:00
The United States can no longer afford the luxury of treating terrorism as a law enforcement problem, and that is why the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is necessary, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said at a press conference at the Pentagon today.

Rumsfeld said the old paradigm of waiting until terrorists struck and then arresting them won't work in an era with weapons of mass destruction. "In this new era, it became clear that prosecuting terrorists after they strike was an inadequate approach, particularly given the lethal threats posed by violent extremists," he said.

Since Sept. 11, 2001, the military has apprehended thousands of enemy combatants, with officials determining that several hundred are particularly dangerous or have high intelligence value. These terrorists represent no state and have no territorial or moral boundaries, he said.

"The president decided that they were not entitled for formal prisoner-of-war status under the Geneva Conventions and that they were certainly not criminal defendants in the traditional law enforcement sense," Rumsfeld said.

"The detention facility at Guantanamo Bay was established for the simple reason that the United States needed a safe and secure location to detain and interrogate enemy combatants," he said. "It was the best option available."

DoD established legal processes for the detainees and developed procedures for catering to detainees' religious needs.

"Our goal as a country is to detain as few people as is possible and is safe," Rumsfeld said. The secretary noted the United States would rather return terrorists to their countries of origin "if the country is capable and willing to manage them in an appropriate way."

But some present an intelligence bonanza. U.S. officials say that Mohamed al-Kahtani -- now in Guantanamo -- was supposed to be the "20th hijacker" on Sept. 11. "He has direct ties to al Qaeda's top leadership, including Osama bin Laden," Rumsfeld said.

At Guantanamo, Kahtani and other detainees have provided valuable information. He and others of his ilk have provided insights into terrorist planning, recruiting and logistics. He also provided the identities and detailed information on 20 of bin Laden's bodyguards and information leading to the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, Rumsfeld said. Interrogators were also able to glean information that allowed foreign police to detain 22 suspected terrorists plotting attacks earlier this year.

Those in Guantanamo are there for a reason, Rumsfeld said. "The kind of people held at Guantanamo include terrorist trainers, bomb makers, extremist recruiters and financiers, bodyguards of Osama bin Laden, and would-be suicide bombers," he said. "They are not common car thieves. They are believed to be determined killers."

The secretary said that the real problem is not Guantanamo Bay. "The problem is that ... we are in unexplored territory with this unconventional and complex struggle against extremism," he said. "Traditional doctrines covering criminals and military prisoners do not apply well enough.

"As the president has said, we are always looking for ways to improve our procedures," he continued. "And, of course, we have been looking for better suggestions as to how to manage detainees who pose a lethal threat to the civilized world, and we have already implemented dozens of reforms."

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Conservatives Tout Guantanamo Bay's Cuisine
Conservatives angered by the frequent calls of congressional Democrats and anti-war activists to close down the military prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, are conducting an unusual counter-attack.

Inspired by California Republican Congressman Duncan Hunter, bloggers from Dummocrats.com have created "The Gitmo Cookbook" to emphasize the high quality of life for prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay facility.

Speaking on Fox News Sunday June 11, Hunter said the criticism of how the U.S. is handling terrorist suspects prompted him to send "for the menu from Guantanamo, so that the average American could understand how we're brutalizing people" at the prison.

"For Sunday, they're going to be having -- let me see -- orange glazed chicken, fresh fruit grupe, steamed peas and mushrooms, rice pilaf -- another form of torture for the hijackers," Hunter said.

"We treat them very well," he added in response to suggestions that the detention center should be shut down.

The Dummocrats.com website picked up on Hunter's theme.

"If you're tired of all the torture allegations, of hearing the media imply that handling a Quran without gloves on is the moral equivalent of beheading someone, and of all the hysteria about enemy combatants, you'll enjoy the Gitmo Cookbook," the website states.

The book "contains the actual recipes and menus for the food served to the Gitmo detainees, along with interesting facts about how American soldiers are working every day to treat prisoners humanely while still getting the information we need to protect ourselves."

During his appearance on Fox News Sunday, Hunter pointed to what he said were exaggerations on the part of Guantanamo Bay prison critics. Giving the prisoners MREs (Meals Ready to Eat), the same food that soldiers are eating, "is considered actually to be a form of abuse," Hunter said.

Laura Curtis, contributing author for Dummocrats and the cookbook, told Cybercast News Service that "this is the exact food that our troops get. The only difference is that, for the detainees, it's halal. The Muslim-approved meat has to be prepared a certain way and the animals have to be slaughtered a certain way."

Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh has been having fun with the idea of a "Club G'itmo," implying that prisoners are staying in conditions comparable to a Caribbean resort. Limbaugh calls Club G'itmo, "Your tropical retreat from the stress of jihad."

But Democratic political operative Donna Brazile was not amused, telling CNN's Inside Politics on Wednesday "that to try to describe Gitmo Bay as some kind of spa, some kind of resort is foolish.

"It is a place that was set up and designed to hold people for an indefinite period of time, to torture them, to try to get information out of them and to keep them behind bars until the United States figures out what to do with them," Brazile said.

Curtis countered that "this is not a terrible thing that is going on. They are being treated humanely. And they are the enemy. I think we are treating them a lot better than they would treat us. The way the media is treating Gitmo is ridiculous."

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It so pointless one can't fail to skim over it and ignore it. Chock-full-of-lies.

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