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 Post subject: AG Eric Holder at Justice Department Oversight Hearing
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:44 pm 
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Attorney General Holder came before the House Judiciary Committee today. He seemed to carefully avoid characterizing the waterboarding of detainees as a violation of law. When questioned by hostile Republican committee members who posed ticking bomb-style hypotheticals, except for a few remarks expressing his opinion that waterbording is indeed torture, Mr. Holder would only state that waterboarding isn't consistent with American values. He made no comments concerning the culpability of top Bush administration officials and, as such, provided no indication concerning the potential for legal sanctions in the Bush torture matter.

Reasonably, torture is the involuntary subjection of an individual to an act or process that's intended to cause physical or mental agony, and where the individual has no control over said act or process. Legal scholars agree that torture in the context of the Bush-Cheney 'enhanced interrogation' campaign was a blatant violation of US and international laws. As I see it, if General Holder were a reasonable and just man with genuine respect for the rule of law, he would embrace this perspective and pursue warranted sanctions for the violators. Appointment of a special counsel would be a good start.

 Post subject: Re: AG Eric Holder at Justice Department Oversight Hearing
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:38 am 
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Appointment of a special counsel would be a good start.

Exactly...I watched a bit of Holder's questioning this morning on CSPAN. One Republican senator really tried to pin down Holder on whether or not the Obama administration would hold any detainee who was considered to be a danger to the US, regardless of lack of REAL evidence. Holder became somewhat exasperated, because he'd already said that evidence would be considered...and I guess that was what the Repub senator didn't want to hear...Finally, Holder said they would not be releasing any person who was considered a "threat."

Now, they've got lots of evidence that lots of members of the Bush admin are guilty of numerous crimes, yet there seems to be lots of denying that fact. IMO, we've all been in serious danger from people like Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and Rice, as well as many liars in the media for many years. How about holding the Bush admin accountable for their crimes, too, as well as any "guilty" detainee. But determine the guilt first...that's the rule of law. If America doesn't return to actually being a "nation of laws," that term will become laughable, if it hasn't already.


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