The member calling himself tgen was here all of two days, back in 2005. I don't know what happened to him, but we did not have the Steel Cage then or the thread would have quickly been moved in there, I'm sure. His name is still on the membership list and if he should return, he would be given an opportunity to voice his opinions, albeit they might end up the old SC...but that's why we created that forum...for the in your face types of discussions. It's unfortunate that he and Dog's didn't hit it off too well, but that's all water under the bridge, as Dog's is no longer an active member here, either.