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 Post subject: Opinions on Global Orwellian Thought Crimes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:40 pm 
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Opinions wanted re:Global Orwellian Thought Crimes.
1.OK?
2.NOT OK?
3.Why?
After reading the following,does this,what's next?
I think this is more evidence of how insane this world has become,when one can be globally,or in any way locked up for a thought,
possible thought,or any thought!
Just ask Ernst Zundel,who for the last 14 months,has been held in solitary conefinement,in Canada for merely re-examining the history of the Holocaust.No,he is not a Jew-hating Nazi,just as with many facets of history,he undertook a serious study of the events involving the Holocaust.
Just do a search by typing in his name,Ernst Zundel,or read the full data pages at:(www.rense.com)

Has anyone read "1984"by George Orwell?
If so,sound familiar more and more these days?
Does anyone know anything about George Orwell?
What does evryone think of this Global Orwellian Thought Crime,in the article to follow?
Is'nt Sharon,and Israel guilty for the longest time with their continuing violations of the same
UN Resolutions,we supposedely attacked Iraq for?
Are'nt we just as guilty as any other nation that actually does violate these UN Resolutions?
I think the UN should be dismantled,and the emphasis put back on national sovereignity,and stop "Globilization."
Here's just one reason why,

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Global Holocaust-Deniers
Bill Passed In Knesset
By Nina Gilbert
The Jerusalem Post
7-22-4

 

Legislation that would make Holocaust-denial committed overseas an offense under Israeli legal jurisdiction was approved unanimously in first reading by the Knesset on Tuesday.
 
The passage of the measure would enable Israel to demand the extradition of Holocaust-deniers for prosecution.
 
The bill was drafted by MK Aryeh Eldad (National Union) as a move against former Palestinian Authority prime minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) for his doctoral dissertation 20 years ago in which he estimated that the Nazis killed less than a million Jews.
 
It is likely to serve as a deterrence against Holocaust-deniers visiting Israel, although the possibility of countries consenting to extradition on the offense is unlikely.
 
The legislation expands the territorial jurisdiction of the Israeli law against Holocaust-denying outside of it borders.
 
 
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... t/JPArticl
e/ShowFull&cid=1090294696522&p=1006688055060

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 Post subject: History fell apart at the seems a long time ago.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:22 am 
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We are supposed to believe our history books and believe what they have told us all these years. We are supposed to believe it because we have been told so by our teachers and parents and others. So much trust; yet so many lies. Our parents didn't know either, that's why they told us the same things in good faith. In a sense it was like a virus that kept us and them thinking - inside the box. We never questioned much at all, we just accepted what we learned as the only truth. Some of us break clear of this and I'm betting it's because we work / keep busy and don't watch all that much TV? We soon start to think critically and ask questions. We all of a sudden realize, John Q. Public been's had. Many a person has dug deep into history and found it was far different from what they'ed be taught. Much of it has been debunked and documented. It's not that big events in history didn't happen at all, but why did they happen in a certain way? What caused varoious events to just happen? Were the explanations given for these events correct? Much can be learned from history, when one seeks truth. Keep in mind, there is lots they don't want people to know.

Do you have a gut feeling that something is very wrong with the system? Something is going on and you don't like the smell of it? Your not alone. Many people are starting to think critically and their not ready to "just believe" without thinking. They're not going to believe that news guy just because he has a big name in the business. They're not willing to believe his story without much pondering and critical debate. They'er not going to believe the news just because it was on TV. People have smartened up and they've become more informed. Not because they watch more news, but because they know "how" to watch the news. Now, they refuse to be scared into a corner by the 6:00 news. Ahh .. Err ... Hey, I was a sleep, dreaming .. I was dreaming that most people had come around and could see the pending dangers. Jesse .. I was only dreaming. So sad!

People say "follow the money," it is hard to follow the money and the control of it with accuracy, atleast for most people. Still, there some people who have come pretty close to bang on. Are the powerful and rich elite satanist? Unless this is important to you, that is another matter and can lead one off into total distraction. Yes, I know this is very important to many, but still one needs to stay on the money trail if they can and note the manipulations along the way. Most people on the internet, get confused and lose their way after a time. There is so much stuff out there, they get tired and bored quickly. There are plenty of good books on the subject of money, power and corruption, but some never reached publication, thanks to the banking families and corrupt politicians who had control of the press. Want some real History? .. Trace the Bank owners / families and their handy work. Oh and while your at it, check the usury system they've created for us.


http://www.worldnewsstand.net/mortgage/3.htm - THE MANDRAKE MECHANISM...What is it?
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/chapter2.htm - Research Links.

War is a racket and it certainly is. Anyone should know that by now. If they don't, they've been living in one deep cave.

War is a Racket, Pop that into a search engine. Try and find the book - War is a Racket, by Smedley D. Butler or sections of it
online.

Smedley Darlington Butler, Major General - United States Marine Corps [Retired], was born in West Chester, Pa., July 30, 1881, educated at Haverford School, married Ethel C. Peters, of Philadelphia, June 30, 1905. He was awarded two congressional medals of honor, for capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914, and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917. He was also awarded the Distinguished Service Medal in 1919.

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http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20an ... -Costs.htm [/url] - Cost and Who Pays.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20an ... ithWar.htm [/url] - To Hell with War.


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Hey, what's going on in the USA and Canada when they take an old man of 64 away from his wife and home and place him in a Canadian gulag? What is Canada and USA coming to? Is it because the history as we are supposed to know it, has busted at the seems. It started to come apart a long time ago and is this why Ernst Zundle has been stuffed into a Canadian jail cell? No, I don't think so. Just maybe they don't want him around because they know what is going to happen in our future and they don't want him in their way? He so often talks about Peace, Justice, and Honesty. Those things you don't hear much about these days in the - Mainstream - News Media.

http://www.rense.com/general54/zundlcase.htm
http://www.rense.com/general54/erns.htm
http://www.zundelsite.org/zundel_persecuted/june27-04_zgram.html

Ernst Zundel is a political prisoner being persecuted and prosecuted for no crime other than expressing his views on the Second World War. At the behest of the powerful and vindictive Holocaust Lobby, Mr. Zundel is being held, without bail, in solitary confinement at the Metro West Detention Center . He is being treated worse than a common criminal, denied even the basic amenities provided to other prisoners. -- At the forefront of protecting Canadian civil liberties since 1981 - http://www.canadianfreespeech.com

Here is way to keep up to date.

Ingrid Rimland's daily ZGrams have become an important and unique cyber tradition. She started sending them on January 1, 1996 and has - with the exception of several computer glitches or massive, still unsolved electronic enemy sabotage - sent them to her primary list every day since then. 365 days a year!

ZGRAMS are free.
http://www.zundelsite.org/

All for now ..

Sir-Irate.

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 Post subject: Orwellian Thought
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:47 am 
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"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
-George Orwell


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NGUYEN: We want to go back now to that video that we're just getting in from Donald Rumsfeld's visit to Iraq, a surprise visit, he is at Camp Victory here in Baghdad in this video speaking to soldiers in the mess hall. Let's take a listen.

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DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: And to change that way of living, would strike at the very essence of our country.

And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

And that is exactly what we cannot allow to happen.

-Excerpt from NEWS FROM CNN Transcripts, 12-24-04


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Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery is torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always -- do not forget this, Winston -- always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever.'

-Excerpt from 1984 by George Orwell, 1949

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