April 22, 2004 - Pat Tillman killed by friendly fire

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman



The tragedy here was not that Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire, this has happened in wars since the beginning of time. It was the subsequent cover up that was a crime here. Was it really concerns that recruiting would be so severely impacted by this disclosure or was something more nefarious? Had word of Tillman's disaffection for the Iraqi war reached those in power? Was this why he was in Afghanistan and not Iraq? Was the military covering up the fact that many of troops deployed lacked the necessary training to avoid killing their fellow soldiers during combat, because of a rush to deploy? Had Tillman lacked the necessary personal body armor that could have saved his life?

Despite the recent investigations and reports issued by the military, many of these questions remained unresolved. The horror of war is bad enough without added incompetence and malice.

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I don't have links for this, it is just something I heard. Tillman did not agree with the Iraq war and was vocal about it. It was questioned after his death whether the death was actually accidental. His personal belongings were burned, and his personal diary was missing.

Sounds like there was more than a cover-up if these things are true.

Yup, this happens more often then people realize. Speaking out has cost many a good person their life. Sad indeed!

Yup. I am thinking people like JFK, RFK, MLK, Paul Wellstone, Gandhi (sp?), what was the name of that Pope who was going to look into the church, John I was it?

Knowledge is a dangerous thing when you are not supposed to have it.

It was John Paul I and he served only 33 days. He was the only Pope to have actually served his term as a "I," all the other I's got there ordinal numbers after their deaths when the practice of using them was started. He was the first to have picked a "new name" and the first with a double name.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I_conspiracy_theories

This happening has been of interest to me ever since I first heard about it. Thank you for reminding me of his name.

Wasn't John Paul I going to look into church finances or some such thing? I just remember that he was treading on a lot of toes, then he was gone. Served 33 days, that has to be a record...especially considering the mystery surrounding his death.

Good thing you are here APL, I read your posts to remind me of things my head never seems to store. I have lived a long life and lived through many important events--just don't have a good filing system in my head to keep them all straight even though they are interesting.

I know we're talking about Pat Tillman here but I can't let your discussion on JP1 just slip by. I was reading a book recently called "In God's Name" by David Yallop, which was a bestseller in the 1980's, an investigation into the death/murder of JP1. I was going to talk to Wolveshater about this and other points that make one wonder about the motives that led to his murder/death. There was a group that wanted to continue to launder money for the mafia etc. and were to be exorcised by the new pope. I'm sure wolves would have found the #33 as profound- JP's length of rule-, like dori said, it was an issue around the Vatican Bank.

Anyway, back to the topic-
I never heard that Tillman was vocal in his opposition to the war, but if someone this spotlighted and famous were to speak out against the war after his recruitment story, it would be a definite black eye to the phony war scenario that our leaders have painted as reality.

Guess I'll look up this info and post back when I can.


Found it- Info dori gave was accurate- your old head is working just fine- know what you mean about infocram- kinda explains why rightwingnuts don't think- too much reality hurts the peabrain of a freeper.

Here's a source that can't be questioned- Pat Tillman's Brother- soldier and patriot-Kevin Tillman!
http://www.citizen-soldier.org/tillman.html
-by David Zirin, who wrote more articles about Pat and Kevin.

Wow! What a fantastic letter by Kevin Tillman. I hope everyone checks out DO.g's link.



Kevin Tillman was at the Senate hearing and I don't think the Senators allowed him to speak enough. They were so busy thanking him they didn't allow him time to say what people needed to hear.

Too bad. He has a LOT to say and it makes sense!