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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:26 am 
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Joe Lieberman should leave the Democratic Party

At some point, it is no longer about policy. It isn't about disagreeing on one issue and agreeing on another. It becomes about what is best for a political movement, and that political movement's ability to move forward and create progress for a nation.

That is why Joe Lieberman should leave the Democratic party.

In the new issue of The New Yorker (March 21) in an article discussing Democrats and foreign policy, Joe Biden is asked about Howard Dean. Senator Biden obviously has a different read on foreign policy than Governor Dean, so he answers the reviewer with a generic statement that the party chairman makes little difference in foreign policy. He's made it clear that he disagrees with Dean, but chooses not to launch a national attack on the chairman of the god damn party.

Not Joe Lieberman. Not the original Two-Face himself. No. Joe Lieberman makes a point of flipping the bird at the party that helps keep his ass in Washington and voted for him as its vice-presidential nominee five years ago.

"Dean was wrong on the war and what he was talking about was bad for the country. We'll see what he does as chairman. If he devotes his energies to building a party at the base, as he talked about doing, good for him. If he continues to be a prominent spokesman on defense policy, I would regret it"

Leave aside the question of policy (I happen to agree with Dean, but that is not the point). Joe Lieberman feels that as a Democrat, it's a good idea to launch a public attack on the party chairman. Why? Why the hell does he do this? Why is Joe Lieberman actively hurting the Democratic party? He knows the media salivates over the notion of a party member disagreeing with party leadership, and the GOP is smart enough to keep their disputes behind closed doors. But Joe Lieberman, seduced by the lights, camera, and ink can't wait to be the "maverick" once again, knifing his party in the back.

Maybe it's because even though Dean lost in NH, he kicked Lieberman's ass 26%-9%? Maybe it's for historical reasons - because Joe Lieberman did nothing to help Al Gore among the constituencies he was supposed to, and was perhaps a drag on the '00 ticket? Perhaps it's because his party took a look at him in 2004 and rejected him again, and again, and again, and again? (compare this to Wes Clark, who essentially just became a Democrat in 2004, yet consistently outpolled Lieberman and actually won a primary election)

It doesn't matter why, quite honestly. There are numerous Democrats who are conservatives and share many of the same policy positions as Joe Lieberman (for instance: Mary Landrieu, Evan Bayh, etc.) - but they do not publicly defecate on their party over and over again. That's the difference here. That's the key. Lieberman curries favor with the media and the GOP by slamming Democrats publicly for the simple goal of boosting whatever limited sense of worth inherit in Joe Lieberman's soul.

Senator Lieberman, if you hate Democrats so much - leave. Leave. Go away. Join the Republicans, join the Libertarians, become an independent - whatever the hell you want to do but leave the Democratic party. You're not fit to work in Washington under the party of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or any of the other millions of us who believe in the promise of America.

Go. And don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split you.
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Joe's increasing estrangement from his party due to his sucking up to the GOP and his habitual bashing of fellow Democrats is attracting attention as to whether Connecticut wants him to serve past 2006.

Politics professor considering challenging Lieberman




By LOLITA C. BALDOR
Associated Press Writer

March 17, 2005, 1:32 AM EST

WASHINGTON -- A Fairfield University politics professor who ran unsuccessfully for congress in 1984, said Wednesday he is exploring a challenge to Sen. Joe Lieberman in 2006.

John Orman, of Trumbull, said he is creating an advisory committee to evaluate a run for the Democratic nomination.

"There is a great national debate going on for the heart and soul of the Democratic party," said Orman, 56. "Let the battle begin here and now in Connecticut."


Lieberman, 62, ran unsuccessfully for vice president as Al Gore's running mate in 2000, and then launched a bid for president. He pulled out of the White House race in Feb. 2004, after convincing losses in the early primaries.

The three-term centrist Democrat has come under fire for his support of the Iraq war and his willingness to work with President Bush and the Republicans on a number of issues.

"Our party's Senator is no longer a Democrat. He has joined the Republicrat Party," said Orman. "After 17 years as a safe-seat senator, Joe has lost touch with his party and with his state."

Orman said he is gathering liberal Democrats, including labor leaders, to gauge his potential success. But he acknowledged that Lieberman is very popular and will have the support of the Democratic party's establishment. Mounting the challenge now, "could make Joe Lieberman be a Democrat for a year," he said.

Lieberman spokeswoman Casey Aden-Wansbury said the senator "looks forward to putting his record before the Connecticut voters again next year and to earn the privilege of serving as their Senator for another term."

In 2000, Orman filed a complaint with the state Ethics Commission to try and prevent Lieberman from running for both vice president and for re-election to his Senate seat. The state rejected his complaint, ruling that it was legal to run for both, and Lieberman eventually won re-election by a wide margin.

Orman also criticized Lieberman's poor attendance record _ an issue the senator used in 1988 in his successful campaign to oust then Sen. Lowell P. Weicker, a Republican. Lieberman missed a substantial number of votes during 2003, when he was on the road campaigning for president.

Associated Press Writer Lolita Baldor can be reached at: lbaldor(at)ap.org

Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press

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Joe Liebermann has caught whatever disease it is that infects Zell Miller, and the two Hawaii Dems who voted for the oil drilling of the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve.

Got any ideas for good names for this dread disease? :tard:

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Catherine, finally registered and found the place. Thanks for the invite!

Agree about Joe, and here's a couple of ideas for names for what guys like these suffer from:

Brain DeLay
Mad Condi Disease
Lottbotomy
Bush in Mouth Disease
Fristicular Cancer

I'm sure there are better names, I'm just gettin' warmed up.


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Good to see you here, Stoney! Go by the Introduce Yourself forum and let everyone else know you're here. I think you'll like this board.

You are so right on target with the list of names. Especially the Condi and Delay christenings. I've seen Liebermann referred to as Joe LIEberman many times.

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