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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:36 am 
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Mr. Romney's speech only seems to have been transcripted on his web site.

People have made the comparisons between JFK's speech about his catholicism and his ability to separate that from his presidency to MR's seeming inability.

Romney was quoted as saying in part:
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"I will take care to separate the affairs of government from any religion, but I will not separate us from the God who gave us liberty,"

So, he's saying he's willing to violate the "separation of church and state".

Is he pandering to the religious right or what? And why bother when Huckabee is what the evangelicals really want? Romney is like one of those dates a playboyish cad keeps on the side, just in case things don't work out with the his main fling.

Governor Mitt Romney's "Faith In America" Address
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Thursday, Dec 06, 2007

"Faith In America"
Remarks As Prepared For Delivery
The George Bush Presidential Library
College Station, Texas
December 6, 2007

"Thank you, Mr. President, for your kind introduction.

"It is an honor to be here today. This is an inspiring place because of you and the First Lady and because of the film exhibited across the way in the Presidential library. For those who have not seen it, it shows the President as a young pilot, shot down during the Second World War, being rescued from his life-raft by the crew of an American submarine. It is a moving reminder that when America has faced challenge and peril, Americans rise to the occasion, willing to risk their very lives to defend freedom and preserve our nation. We are in your debt. Thank you, Mr. President.

"Mr. President, your generation rose to the occasion, first to defeat Fascism and then to vanquish the Soviet Union. You left us, your children, a free and strong America. It is why we call yours the greatest generation. It is now my generation's turn. How we respond to today's challenges will define our generation. And it will determine what kind of America we will leave our children, and theirs.

"America faces a new generation of challenges. Radical violent Islam seeks to destroy us. An emerging China endeavors to surpass our economic leadership. And we are troubled at home by government overspending, overuse of foreign oil, and the breakdown of the family.
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I thought this was the scariest part:

"Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.:shock: Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone."

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Yeah, that is interesting.

True freedom only requires people to have power over ourselves for everything.

How's that for a bastardization of Michel de Montaigne?

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the guy is a wacko cult follower who is being exposed for what he truely is.

the core group of evangelicals who support the repugs will make sure huckabee wins over him in the primaries.

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the core group of evangelicals who support the repugs will make sure huckabee wins over him in the primaries.


Huckabee tends to draw religion into far too many issues. When political candidates do that, I know they tend to interpret their "messages" from their gods in terms that are agreeable with their own ideals, and they will then turn around and say "God made me do it." Bush and the neocons have been doing it for years.

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Whenever he's asked about climate change or the environment, he wraps in religion, saying we have a spiritual obligation to protect God's creation.


http://www.grist.org/feature/2007/10/02 ... factsheet/

Huckabee on Abortion:

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No states rights for moral issues like abortion. (Nov 2007)
No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)
Led Arkansas to human life amendment in state constitution. (Sep 2007)
Consensus impossible: pro-choice world fundamentally differs. (Jun 2007)
Hate abortion but allow it is like hate slavery but allow it. (May 2007)
Certainly good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed. (May 2007)
Embryonic stem cell research creates life to end a life. (May 2007)
Pro-life includes improving life after birth. (Jan 2007)
Outlaw all abortions; err on the side of life. (Jan 2007)
Pro-life and pro-death penalty, & sees them as far different. (Jan 2007)
Even Americans who are pro-choice are pro-life. (Jan 2007)
Eliminate public funding for abortion organizations. (Nov 2002)
Supports woman’s right-to-know legislation. (Jan 2001)
Pro-life, but respects choice as mandated law. (Jan 2001)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm

MORE AT THE ABOVE LINK.

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Huckabee v. Huffington

The gloves are off in a throwdown between Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and Huffington Post creator Arianna Huffington over a low point in Huckabee’s career as governor of Arkansas. The controversy concerns the Huffington Post’s coverage of the part Huckabee played in the release of serial rapist Wayne Dumond, whose time in prison clearly didn’t rehabilitate him

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While Romney goes out of his way to announce his christianness, his repub adversary down plays his:

HUCK ADS, DROPS 'CHRISTIAN LEADER'

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Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:32 PM by Domenico Montanaro | From NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy

Huckabee will begin airing two new ads tomorrow. "A New America" will air in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, while "Secure Borders" will air only in Iowa. His three-state ad seems almost like a reintroduction to voters in the early primary states, now that Huckabee has a little more money and the spotlight shining on him due to recent polls.

The ad touts Huckabee's positive vision for America's future and his desire to leave the next generation "an America that's even greater than our grandparents gave us." The ad shows the candidate sitting on a couch and talking into a camera interspersed with images of Huckabee as a child. There are also the ubiquitous images of Americana, like a smiling mother and her son sitting on a stoop, a mother pushing her daughter in a swing and a factory worker being lifted up in a cherry-picker. Words displayed over the pictures trumpet Huckabee's accomplishments as governor, such as being labeled one of the best governors in America by Time Magazine.

But both ads also does something else -- they drop “Christian Leader” from the titles on the screen. “Proven Leader” is, instead, substituted.
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Here Huckabee commits the cardinal sin of NOT attacking the Clintons as the anti-christs:

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"You know, I've never hated the Clintons. I still don't, I have great respect for them. He made a lot of mistakes — a lot of personal ones — but you know something that I think should not be forgotten. There's two things about Bill Clinton I tell Republicans, it drives them nuts, but here it is.


And maybe it's a good thing that he's downplaying the christian leader thing, because his theology is, well, whack:

On Jesus support of the death penalty while up on that cross:
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... in Jan. 1997, a caller called into Huckabee's show on Arkansas Educational Television Network and asking how he squared his Christian teachings with his support for the death penalty. As the Arkansas Times reported on Jan. 22, 1997:

"Interestingly enough," Huckabee allowed, "if there was ever an occasion for someone to have argued against the death penalty, I think Jesus could have done so on the cross and said, 'This is an unjust punishment and I deserve clemency'."

Jesus, though, did not ask for clemency. Therefore, according to Huckabee's logic, Jesus must have been in favor of capital punishment.
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Hoo dawgy! We got us a live one, hear-ya.

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Maybe Mr. Romney should have quit while he was somewhere around the pack. :roll:

In recent days, he's being called-out from all angles.

There's the claim that he offered porn while on the board of the Marriott hotels chain.

Then there's the claim that he's lying -- like when he suggested that his pop marched with Dr. MLK jr; or saying he was endorsed by the NRA; or spread the half-truth that he got tough on illegal immigrants; or fronted as a cheat according to the IRS.

Then there's the photo opps of him at Planned Parenthood fundraisers.

And there was that mormon's are cool speech. Too bad a Gallup poll says many still won't vote for a mormon.

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