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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:47 pm 
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Nelson bill would abolish Electoral College

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) introduced a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College on Friday, less than a week after the Democrats settled on how to handle delegates from Florida at their national convention.

“It’s time for Congress to really give Americans the power of one-person, one-vote, instead of the political machinery selecting candidates and electing our president,” Nelson said in a release announcing the amendment.

Nelson had announced he would offer the legislation in an address to his state’s senate in March.

Nelson said his principal argument for making the change is that the Electoral College permits a candidate with fewer votes nationally to win the presidency by capturing narrow victories in big states. In 2000, then-Vice President Al Gore won the popular votes but George W. Bush won the Electoral College.


....and we've been paying the piper ever since.

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I didn't vote since I believe the second option misstates reality. While counter-institutive, a one man/one vote analysis shows that voters in the smaller states have a stronger voice when voting for president. In states where cattle out number people, like Vermont and Wyoming, the 2 Electoral College votes represented by the US Senate seats are much less diluted. Washington DC has the highest efficacy for its voters, with the least population. In California, they are washed out with the overwhelming number of House Seat electoral votes. This has been the case ever since the number of US Representatives was capped at 435. The Gerrymandering of districts just exacerbates the problem in presidential politics and in getting a true representation of the people in the House of Representatives.

We tend to forget that the Electoral College was a compromise worked out during the framing of the Constitution to allay fears of the smaller states. These same smaller states would have to ratify any Constitutional Amendment to change the structure and is unlikely since no entity just naturally concedes power. I see two major problems with direct election—1)Any election fraud would concentrate on vote denial and vote flipping in those precincts that could swing an election (a surprisingly small number is all that would need 'fixing' to swing an election). 2)We become the United Peoples of America not the United States of America.

Adjustments need to be made to the House of Representatives but are never discussed since sitting Congress Members would lose power. The Nelson Bill being a response to the primary vote is just plain ignoring the facts; the Repug run Florida state legislature set the date for the primary trying to put a monkey wrench in the Dems' plans. They succeeded in making the Dems look undemocratic while avoiding the blame. If this was really a response to the 2000 election, why wasn't the Amendment proposed in 2001? What would seem to be a more sensible approach would be to discard this set of 54 different primaries and establish national standards for the primaries.


Crossposted from Public Polls

http://www.tvnewslies.org/phpbb/viewtop ... 1296#51296

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