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Those Who Voted for Bush May Be In for a Big Surprise
Concerns closer to his heart could trump all that talk about values.
Jonathan Chait

November 5, 2004

Dear rural/exurban Christian conservative voters:

Congratulations on your election victory. By going to the polls in unprecedented numbers Tuesday, you overwhelmed an enormous Democratic turnout and returned President Bush to office, along with a number of very conservative senators. Now Bush is preparing to repay your efforts by moving immediately on your highest priorities: a flat tax and privatizing Social Security.

Oh, wait. You didn't particularly hanker for those things, did you? The election is so far in the past now that it has receded into a hazy memory. But as I recall, you voted for Bush because of his position on one issue — he opposes gay marriage — and on the general principle that he is a godly man who shares your values. Now Bush has decided, conveniently enough, that those values are identical to those of his wealthy financiers. (Go to any meeting of the Club for Growth, a group of affluent, libertarian-leaning Bush backers who mostly live in Washington and New York City. I'm sure you'll find them, like victorious Okla-homophobe Sen. Tom Coburn, deeply concerned about rampant high school lesbianism in the Sooner State.)

Bush is claiming the election as a mandate. There are, however, a couple of ways to interpret that. The conventional meaning is that a candidate gained office by promising to do a certain thing. Ronald Reagan in 1980 had a mandate to cut taxes and bolster the military. Bill Clinton in 1992 had a mandate to raise taxes on the rich, expand healthcare, reform welfare. Those were the central promises of the two campaigns.

Bush uses the word somewhat differently. As he told reporters Thursday, "I earned capital in the campaign — political capital — and now I intend to spend it."

What that means is that all you small-town folk voted for him not to pursue an agenda but just because he embodies family values. That gives him political power that he can use for purposes utterly unrelated to the source of his popularity. Sure, Bush mentioned some of these purposes in the campaign. But the references tended to be perfunctory and in code. Start with taxes.

Though Bush talks about tax "simplification," he doesn't seriously believe it. He has littered the tax code with complicated new provisions, including a ludicrous corporate tax bill stuffed with special provisions for sausage producers, foreign dog-race gamblers and the like. Simplification really means making the tax code flatter — i.e. less progressive. He doesn't care about making taxes simpler; he just wants rich people to pay a smaller share of them. There's little evidence to suggest small-town Ohioans flocked to the polls so they could have a portion of George Soros' tax burden shifted onto themselves.

On Social Security, Bush was just as evasive. Here, again, the tiny minority of people who closely follow this understood his code words. He wants to divert Social Security taxes into private accounts. Because those taxes pay for the benefits of current retirees, his plan would require cutting benefits or driving the national debt even higher.

Bush, of course, went to great pains to distance himself from these unpleasant facts. In 2001, he appointed a commission that proposed three plans to partly privatize Social Security, but he declined to embrace the panel's findings. A few weeks before the election, a New York Times Magazine story reported that Bush told GOP donors he planned to push privatization after the election. John Kerry's campaign circulated a nonpartisan study showing what the benefit cuts in one of the commission's plans would entail. Bush's spokesman dismissed the charge that he favored privatization or benefit-cutting as a "false, baseless attack."

Here's what Bush said Thursday: "I had asked [Daniel Patrick Moynihan], prior to his passing, to chair a committee of notable Americans to come up with some ideas on Social Security, and they did so. And it's a good place for members of Congress to start."

Got that? Last week, if you had described Bush as advocating the commission's plans, he would have denounced you for promoting a hysterical lie. Now they are at the top of the list of things he's saying he was elected specifically to enact.

Meanwhile, what about opposing gay marriage, the one mandate Bush might legitimately claim? Earlier this year, Bush barely lifted a finger in support of a constitutional amendment banning it. (Compare this to the furious arm-twisting he performs to get moderates to back his tax cuts.) If he has a mandate to do anything, it's to bring up the amendment again. However, he's said nothing about doing so, and nobody expects him to.

No surprise there — it's hardly in the Republican Party's interest. If gay marriage is banned everywhere, what's going to bring all those heartland conservatives to the polls next time?

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Lets forget about slutty2006 and get back to an election issue. I vote to ban slutty2006 from ever posting here again.

Fuck off slutty.

Perhaps slutty2006 should take her business to Cuba, where she can be the dumbest hooker who gets aids in Cuba. Show the Cubans just how stupid american sluts can be.

Today's Bush Lie
"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most educated prostitutes in the world.'"

"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.

"According to officials, the actual quotation from Castro's 1992 speech reads as follows: 'There are hookers, but prostitution is not allowed in our country. There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the country with the lowest number of AIDS cases.'"
The Register, 07.28.04

Speaking of socialists and their stance on fairness to the people- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov20 ... -n16.shtml
George W. Bush's three principles: lies, fraud and theft
By Barry Grey
16 November 2000

With his nationally televised speech Wednesday night, Republican Governor George W. Bush became the first candidate in US history to attempt, openly and before the American people, to gain the presidency through the suppression of votes.

Next Bush enunciated his three principles: “This process must be fair, this process must be accurate, and this process must be final.” It is obviously not fair to arbitrarily exclude the votes of people who went to the polls. It is transparent that the purpose of such a procedure is to arrive at a result that is not accurate. As for the principle of finality—for the Bush camp this means certifying the result that it wants, not the result dictated by the will of the electorate.

Bush elaborated on his principle of “fairness”: the vote, he said, must be “fair to voters throughout America, fair to voters in Florida, and fair to voters in different counties in Florida.” If Bush has his way, voters throughout America, who cast a plurality of ballots for Bush's Democratic opponent, will see their choice overturned on the basis of an overtly partisan and undemocratic procedure in Florida. Within Florida itself, thousands of individuals have taken to the streets to protest their disenfranchisement at the hands of Bush's local allies, and at least two counties have been denied their legal right to conduct a manual recount.

Bush continued: “I honor and respect the value of every single vote. That's why my campaign supported the automatic recount of all the votes in Florida.” With regard to the first sentence, candor would have required Bush to add “in my favor.” The second sentence is a non sequitur: since the initial recount was automatic, the Bush campaign could not stop it.

The next sentence—“Everyone in Florida has had his or her vote counted once”—is a brazen lie. As the whole world knows, tens of thousands of votes, mainly of black and immigrant workers and other likely Gore supporters, have not been counted.

As mendacious as the body of Bush's speech was, his peroration achieved new heights—or depths—of cynicism and deceit. “We have a responsibility to conduct ourselves with dignity and honor,” he declared. This from a candidate who has employed the basest methods of conspiracy and fraud to hijack an election, not hesitating to plot with his brother in the Florida statehouse and his first cousin, John Ellis, at Fox TV to disenfranchise voters and stampede public opinion.

“We have a responsibility,” he continued, “to make sure that those who speak for us do not poison our politics. And we have the responsibility to respect the law and not seek to undermine it when we do not like its outcome.” This from the head of a campaign that has employed character assassination and slander as a central component of its modus operandi, and the leader of a party that has devoted the past eight years to a covert campaign of dirty tricks aimed at humiliating, destabilizing and bringing down an elected president.


http://www.oilempire.us/stolenelection2004.html
some of the best sites keeping track of the fraudulent 2004 "election"

http://www.auditthevote.org

http://www.blackboxvoting.org Bev Harris's efforts to expose the fraud of touch screen voting machines

http://www.caseohio.org Ohio group documenting the fraud of the 2004 election

http://www.electionfraud2004.org good slideshow introduction to the issues

http://www.freepress.org Free Press, a Columbus Ohio publication that has done some of the best reporting, required reading for anyone curious how the election was stolen in Ohio

http://www.indyvoter.org the League of Pissed Off Voters, which has helped hold public hearings on the vote fraud

http://www.legitgov.org Citizens for Legitimate Government, founded to oppose the 2000 coup in Florida, excellent news service

http://www.nov2truth.org great collection of articles, links

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Re ... adsen.html controversial article alleging CIA involvement in the 2004 electoral fraud

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/12 ... andes.html the solution is paper ballots, counted by hand (not a "paper trail")

http://www.scoop.co.nz New Zealand based news service with better reporting on US scandals than most US based media

http://www.ThomHartmann.com syndicated columnist Thom Hartmann, who has been writing about vote fraud and fascism

http://www.votescam.com Vote Scam, a book about vote fraud investigations in Florida in the early 1970s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis more allegations of vote rigging in Florida

Vote Fraud in Ohio

Lost ballots and Diebold's counting
We're finally on our own
This winter I hear Bush laughing
Vote Fraud in Ohio

Gotta get real ballots
Paperless taking us down
Should have been done long ago
Keep blacks from voting and
TV won't make a sound
Kerry won, but he said no.

Vote Fraud in Ohio
Vote Fraud in Florida
Vote Fraud in Nevada
Vote Fraud in Iowa
Vote Fraud New Mexico ...


written in response to the stealing of the 2004 election through rigged voting machines, voter intimidation and stolen ballots

Crosby Stills Nash and Young
Four Dead In Ohio

Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her and
Found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio

written in response to National Guard's murder of four students at Kent State University, May 1970, who were peacefully protesting the illegal bombing of Cambodia

Vote fraud is not a "Conspiracy Theory"

1. It's a violation of the Voting Rights Act to prohibit people from voting, especially based on their skin color (as happened in numerous places in Ohio and other states).

2. We have no way to verify what happened inside the touch screen voting machines. Imagine if Michael Moore made voting machines, promised to deliver Ohio to the Democrats, and then put these auditless machines everywhere. Would the Republicans tolerate that situation?

3. People in Ukraine are protesting vote fraud that was caught via exit polls. The former President of Georgia was ousted a few years ago in a similar scandal. Perhaps exit polls are less trustworthy in the US.

4. There will probably be some claims of vote fraud that turn out not to be true -- but the fact that there was tampering is indisputable. It is likely that Karl Rove's forces will plant some fake evidence to discredit the whole issue, just as they've done with the 9/11 scandal, Bush AWOL story and others. It's interesting that the Wash comPost, NYT, Fox, The Nation, Salon.com have all denounced "conspiracy theories" in the past few days. Usually, it takes a much longer time to earn their scorn.

5. There were many places in several states (at least) where there were more votes than voters in precincts. Fascinating that the voting system isn't set up to catch these problems. The full extent of the fraud will never be known, but there's more than enough to get an indictment.

6. There are numerous reports in several states that touch screen machines selected Bush when voters pressed for Kerry. This website has been unable to find any reports of the reverse problem -- claims that Bush voters had their machines select Kerry instead. Computers are neither smart nor stupid - they are merely programmed to do specific tasks. Has anyone found any "computer problems" that favored Kerry over Bush???

7. There is sufficient evidence to document a systematic Republican campaign to disenfranchise voters, to manipulate the results, to use fraudulent voting machines and other strategies to rig the outcome. All of the tactics that were used have not yet been exposed, but there is more than enough proof that the election was rigged to prosecute the perpetrators and nullify the claim that Bush supposedly won.

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Lets forget about slutty2006 and get back to an election issue. I vote to ban slutty2006 from ever posting here again.

Fuck off slutty.

Perhaps slutty2006 should take her business to Cuba, where she can be the dumbest hooker who gets aids in Cuba. Show the Cubans just how stupid american sluts can be.

Today's Bush Lie
"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most educated prostitutes in the world.'"

"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.

"According to officials, the actual quotation from Castro's 1992 speech reads as follows: 'There are hookers, but prostitution is not allowed in our country. There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the country with the lowest number of AIDS cases.'"
The Register, 07.28.04

Speaking of socialists and their stance on fairness to the people- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov20 ... -n16.shtml
George W. Bush's three principles: lies, fraud and theft
By Barry Grey
16 November 2000

With his nationally televised speech Wednesday night, Republican Governor George W. Bush became the first candidate in US history to attempt, openly and before the American people, to gain the presidency through the suppression of votes.

Next Bush enunciated his three principles: “This process must be fair, this process must be accurate, and this process must be final.” It is obviously not fair to arbitrarily exclude the votes of people who went to the polls. It is transparent that the purpose of such a procedure is to arrive at a result that is not accurate. As for the principle of finality—for the Bush camp this means certifying the result that it wants, not the result dictated by the will of the electorate.

Bush elaborated on his principle of “fairness”: the vote, he said, must be “fair to voters throughout America, fair to voters in Florida, and fair to voters in different counties in Florida.” If Bush has his way, voters throughout America, who cast a plurality of ballots for Bush's Democratic opponent, will see their choice overturned on the basis of an overtly partisan and undemocratic procedure in Florida. Within Florida itself, thousands of individuals have taken to the streets to protest their disenfranchisement at the hands of Bush's local allies, and at least two counties have been denied their legal right to conduct a manual recount.

Bush continued: “I honor and respect the value of every single vote. That's why my campaign supported the automatic recount of all the votes in Florida.” With regard to the first sentence, candor would have required Bush to add “in my favor.” The second sentence is a non sequitur: since the initial recount was automatic, the Bush campaign could not stop it.

The next sentence—“Everyone in Florida has had his or her vote counted once”—is a brazen lie. As the whole world knows, tens of thousands of votes, mainly of black and immigrant workers and other likely Gore supporters, have not been counted.

As mendacious as the body of Bush's speech was, his peroration achieved new heights—or depths—of cynicism and deceit. “We have a responsibility to conduct ourselves with dignity and honor,” he declared. This from a candidate who has employed the basest methods of conspiracy and fraud to hijack an election, not hesitating to plot with his brother in the Florida statehouse and his first cousin, John Ellis, at Fox TV to disenfranchise voters and stampede public opinion.

“We have a responsibility,” he continued, “to make sure that those who speak for us do not poison our politics. And we have the responsibility to respect the law and not seek to undermine it when we do not like its outcome.” This from the head of a campaign that has employed character assassination and slander as a central component of its modus operandi, and the leader of a party that has devoted the past eight years to a covert campaign of dirty tricks aimed at humiliating, destabilizing and bringing down an elected president.


http://www.oilempire.us/stolenelection2004.html
some of the best sites keeping track of the fraudulent 2004 "election"

http://www.auditthevote.org

http://www.blackboxvoting.org Bev Harris's efforts to expose the fraud of touch screen voting machines

http://www.caseohio.org Ohio group documenting the fraud of the 2004 election

http://www.electionfraud2004.org good slideshow introduction to the issues

http://www.freepress.org Free Press, a Columbus Ohio publication that has done some of the best reporting, required reading for anyone curious how the election was stolen in Ohio

http://www.indyvoter.org the League of Pissed Off Voters, which has helped hold public hearings on the vote fraud

http://www.legitgov.org Citizens for Legitimate Government, founded to oppose the 2000 coup in Florida, excellent news service

http://www.nov2truth.org great collection of articles, links

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Re ... adsen.html controversial article alleging CIA involvement in the 2004 electoral fraud

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/12 ... andes.html the solution is paper ballots, counted by hand (not a "paper trail")

http://www.scoop.co.nz New Zealand based news service with better reporting on US scandals than most US based media

http://www.ThomHartmann.com syndicated columnist Thom Hartmann, who has been writing about vote fraud and fascism

http://www.votescam.com Vote Scam, a book about vote fraud investigations in Florida in the early 1970s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis more allegations of vote rigging in Florida

Vote Fraud in Ohio

Lost ballots and Diebold's counting
We're finally on our own
This winter I hear Bush laughing
Vote Fraud in Ohio

Gotta get real ballots
Paperless taking us down
Should have been done long ago
Keep blacks from voting and
TV won't make a sound
Kerry won, but he said no.

Vote Fraud in Ohio
Vote Fraud in Florida
Vote Fraud in Nevada
Vote Fraud in Iowa
Vote Fraud New Mexico ...


written in response to the stealing of the 2004 election through rigged voting machines, voter intimidation and stolen ballots

Crosby Stills Nash and Young
Four Dead In Ohio

Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her and
Found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio

written in response to National Guard's murder of four students at Kent State University, May 1970, who were peacefully protesting the illegal bombing of Cambodia

Vote fraud is not a "Conspiracy Theory"

1. It's a violation of the Voting Rights Act to prohibit people from voting, especially based on their skin color (as happened in numerous places in Ohio and other states).

2. We have no way to verify what happened inside the touch screen voting machines. Imagine if Michael Moore made voting machines, promised to deliver Ohio to the Democrats, and then put these auditless machines everywhere. Would the Republicans tolerate that situation?

3. People in Ukraine are protesting vote fraud that was caught via exit polls. The former President of Georgia was ousted a few years ago in a similar scandal. Perhaps exit polls are less trustworthy in the US.

4. There will probably be some claims of vote fraud that turn out not to be true -- but the fact that there was tampering is indisputable. It is likely that Karl Rove's forces will plant some fake evidence to discredit the whole issue, just as they've done with the 9/11 scandal, Bush AWOL story and others. It's interesting that the Wash comPost, NYT, Fox, The Nation, Salon.com have all denounced "conspiracy theories" in the past few days. Usually, it takes a much longer time to earn their scorn.

5. There were many places in several states (at least) where there were more votes than voters in precincts. Fascinating that the voting system isn't set up to catch these problems. The full extent of the fraud will never be known, but there's more than enough to get an indictment.

6. There are numerous reports in several states that touch screen machines selected Bush when voters pressed for Kerry. This website has been unable to find any reports of the reverse problem -- claims that Bush voters had their machines select Kerry instead. Computers are neither smart nor stupid - they are merely programmed to do specific tasks. Has anyone found any "computer problems" that favored Kerry over Bush???

7. There is sufficient evidence to document a systematic Republican campaign to disenfranchise voters, to manipulate the results, to use fraudulent voting machines and other strategies to rig the outcome. All of the tactics that were used have not yet been exposed, but there is more than enough proof that the election was rigged to prosecute the perpetrators and nullify the claim that Bush supposedly won.

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madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


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