Welcome, MagginKat...I'm glad you're here.

I haven't gone to the site you mention yet, but I will...

I hope you take some time to read the other posts here in the Elections forum, as well as the other forums. There are many postings that offer good information, although the dates they were posted may go back some. If you agree or disagree, let us know.

This board isn't as active as other boards, but the discussion forums are not the main reason TVNL exists. This is a great site, and we're left alone pretty much to discuss whatever we want without a lot of hovering by the administration. However, Jesse will come on and warn or ban abusive posters...I like that aspect of it, too.

That being said, welcome again, and I hope to see you here often.

Catherine

I've been writing, collecting information, etc., on voter fraud since the 2000 S-election. It has been a frustrating four yrs especially since this jackass from Texas was allowed to steal another election.

This was posted at another forum by a fellow member of TVNL:


So broad were the "irregularities" and so varied the manefestations, that we are only now beginning to receive summaries. Here is one:



Gore 2000 repeat voters + huge Democratic new voter registration in 2004 (Dems 57%, Repubs 41%) + huge jump of Nader voters to Kerry = a 4 to 8 million vote margin for Kerry that inexplicably disappeared on election day. (--2nd report by Dr. Steven Freeman.)

This margin was virtually unsurmountable--by Bush--as every other statistic shows:

Kerry won both the national and state exit polls by a margin of 3%. (USCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s, and all other expert reports.)

Impossible skew to Bush in the official results vs. the exit polls, unaccountable by any conceivable bias in the exit polls--conservative odds of 1 in 10 million against the Bush win (confirmed by numerous Ph.D.'s and expert statisticians putting their reputations on the line to say so publicly in peer reviewed reports, including the USCountvotes report).


The UCCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s at leading universities, also indicates that Kerry's margin was even larger than the exit poll 3%, since the exit polls were actually skewed to favor Bush (the exact opposite of what was reported in the news!).

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods in No. Carolina (--Democratic Underground analysis)

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods in FLA. (--UC Berkeley statistics dept, study headed by Dr. Michael Haut)

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods at the precinct level (USCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s).

Secret source code in the central electronic vote tabulators, held as proprietary info. by BushCon companies (two companies, Diebold and ES&S, one run by Bush-Cheney campaign chair in Ohio, the other by a billionaire rightwing nut), no paper trail, and no recount or audit possible, in a third of the voting machines in the country--all conditions for fraud insisted upon by Republican politicians and electronic voting machine company salesmen.

Electronic voting machines proven to be extremely insecure, unreliable and hackable.

All reported vote suppression incidents were perpetrated by Republican election officials and Republican operatives against Democratic voters, mostly minorities. One investigator estimates that 2 million minority votes were suppressed.

57,000 incidents of machine malfunction or vote suppression lodged with Congress--virtually all favoring Bush and hurting Kerry.

Many reports of touchscreen electronic voting machines changing Kerry votes to Bush votes, and none the other way around--huge odds against this.

The intense BushCon efforts to skew the election in such baldfaced, illegal ways in Ohio, Florida and several other key states indicates their fear of Kerry's big new voter registration advantage and the enthusiasm of the grass roots campaign. It was looking like a Kerry blowout--so they had to use every fraud plan they had in place.

Bush's approval ratings prior to the election were dismal - hovering around 50% - not possible for a sitting president to be elected with such low approval ratings, according to highly reputed pollster, Zogby.

Bush's approval ratings today remain dismal - hovering around 50% - dipping to 48% on his Inauguration Day!--an unprecedented "vote of no confidence" by the American people in a recently "re-elected" president.

Americans greatly disapprove of Bush's major policies (nearly 60% disapprove of the Iraq war, now, today--and 63% disapprove of torture under any circumstances).
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And here is the documentation.

Note: In some DU postings of urls, DU cuts off the end of the url, so that you must click to the original to obtain the full url. This list attempts to overcome that program and give you the full url. In order to do so, I've put a space after the point at which DU cuts it off and have added the missing end part. In cutting and pasting, remove the ". . . " and the space, in order to get the full url. (And note, on the Baiman url, only one number was cut off the end, the number 7. Same is true of the Johns Hopkins url, only the number 5 is cut off.)

Exit poll analysis: Astronomical odds against the Bush win.

Dr. Steven Freeman: http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/epdiscrep.htm

Dr. Ron Baiman: http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/99 ... 7

Dr. Webb Mealy: http://www.selftest.net/redshift.htm

Jonathan Simon:http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm

Nine Ph.D's from leading universities call for investigation of 2004 Election:
http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_ ... Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

Florida: 130,000 to 230,000 phantom votes for Bush--paper vs. electronic voting:
Dr. Michael Haut & UC Berkeley statistics team: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu

Democratic Underground (ignatzmouse):
(North Carolina: absentee ballot vs. electronic, inexplicable 9% edge to Bush in electronic:)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x45003

Democratic Underground (TruthIsAl)l: "To believe Bush won, you have to believe…"

Part 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... p?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1316010

Part 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... p?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1358806

Part 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x197878

Democratic Underground (TruthIsAll): The Time Zone Discrepancy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x318693

Johns Hopkins report on insecurity of electronic voting:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00196.htm# ... 5

Easy demo of the how insecure voting machines are:
http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm

"Myth Breakers: Facts About Electronic Elections" (2nd edition): www.votersunite.org

Ohio vote suppression: http://www.bpac.info

Documentation of widespread machine fraud and dirty tricks in over 20 states:
http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html

Greg Palast, "Kerry Won": http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php

In progress compilations of various articles and materials on 2004 Election Fraud:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x311105

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=304579

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Note: The credentials of the Ph.D.'s who have studied this matter and have spoken out publicly is extraordinarily impressive. All of the Dr.'s mentioned above are tops in their field, at leading universities. In addition, here is the list of Ph.D.'s who did the USCountvotes report:

Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D. - Temple University Statistics Department
Steven F. Freeman, PhD - Center for Organizational Dynamics, University of Pennsylvania
Brian Joiner, PhD - Prof. of Statistics and Director of Statistical Consulting (ret), University of Wisconsin
Frank Stenger, PhD in mathematics - School of Computing, University of Utah
Richard G. Sheehan, PhD - Department of Finance, University of Notre Dame
Elizabeth Liddle, MA - (UK) PhD candidate at the University of Nottingham
Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. - Department of Statistical Sciences, Cornell University
Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. - Department of Mathematics, Case Western Reserve University
Campbell B. Read, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, Department of Statistical Science, Southern Methodist University
Kathy Dopp, MS in mathematics - USCountVotes, President
Also Peer Reviewed by USCountVotes’ core group of statisticians and independent reviewers.

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One last bit of info. Jonathan Simon, one of the leading analysts of the exit polls will be speaking at the Oakland, CA, ELECTION RIGGING TEACH-IN, Sat. Feb. 26. Here's the url for that event:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... board.ph...
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(quote is the words of Stephen Pitt, an artist and contributing member of TVNL.)

Catherine