kmac wrote:
Interesting topic....Why should we care what the people in the rest of the world think? While we're on "world image".....which is better for world image-a president who is getting it on with an intern or a president who farts in public every once in a while?
Why should we care what the people in the rest of the world think?
Your absolutely right kmac. We should not care what anyone else thinks. We should continue to manipulate their governments, destroy their countries, steal their money and resources, kill the innocent, and continue to make every nation on this planet hate us. We should continue doing these things until the world is forced to unite against us.
Are you really so arrogant that you feel that this country is invincible? Do you think that we have the sole rights to death and destruction? Do you not think it possible that just as every empire in history has fallen because of their actions, this empire will do the same?
Is it that you think this is not possible because we have newer and better toys to play war with than those of our empirical predecessors? Do not forget, other countries have these same new toys. The only difference there is in this age of foolishness over past age's is that in this age the destruction which will come with the death of our empire will be globally devastating.
But hey, what should we care. We are spreading peace are we not? Why just look how peaceful this world is now.
Do you really think that this war on terror can be won, or is it that you are just being facetious in your statements? Do you not realize that this is a war that cannot be won by magnifying our actions which caused these people to hate us to begin with? Our own actions are what has bread this hatred towards us. It is not our freedom that they hate unless of course you are talking about our foolish notion that our freedom includes imposing our will on other nations.
Can you not see that this globalization which is being perused by both the democrats and the republicans at the direction of the ruling elite is setting this country up for devastation? We have lost much of our infrastructure, we are financially broke, and we are promoting a hatred for us that is unprecedented. At some point do you not think that something is going to break?
At some point this entire house of cards is going to collapse and there is going to be great pain and suffering, yet still we insist on staying the course that we have been on for decades. If this does not define insanity, then I honestly do not know what could define it.
We have ignored the warnings of our past presidents and leaders. Most do not even know of the warnings because they do not care to look and because of this, all of their warnings have come to fulfillment.
Do you think that America at this point in time is the best that it can be? I don't even come close to thinking this. America is not even a shell of what it could be. We are barely a shadow of what could have been.
Yes, in some ways we advanced, but we could have been so much more. I'm not talking in a material sense. I'm talking in a "spiritual" sense. When I say this, I am in NO WAY referring to organized religion. Organized religion is part of the problem. "Spiritually", our country is dead.
A majority are worried about two things. The worship of Mammon is one. For some reason our society puts the worthiness of a persons value to be that of what he has or what their status is.
The second thing the majority are worried about is what other people are doing. Instead of focusing on their own "spiritual" growth, they are constantly pointing the finger and attempting to force changes upon others who have nothing to do with them. These people claim to know "Gods" mind when the truth is they have no conception of "God." No one does. To know "God" is a continual learning experience with a required strong desire to learn more, knowing in the seeking that you will never know it all. To people who read a book, and think that they then know "God" believe that this gives them the authority to dictate the flawed morality they hold to those who do not hold the same beliefs. Some of the people they are attempting to dictate this morality to are actually better than those doing the dictating.
While we're on "world image".....which is better for world image-a president who is getting it on with an intern or a president who farts in public every once in a while?
Lets look at the big picture here.
First, let me tell you that to my mind, Clinton did some things that I cannot, nor will I ever forgive. "Getting it on with an intern" as you so eloquently put it is not on that list of unforgivable sins just as someone who I have come to hate farting in public is not on the list.
Clinton lied about having a sexual affair and he was raked over the coals. The religious right would have had a public execution I think if they were able to get away with it.
What bothers you more? The fact that someone had an extra marital affair and lied about it, or someone started a war and lied about it.
I do not believe that all "sins" are equal. An extra marital affair, although slimy, harms no one except those directly involved.
Rape, Murder, Torture on the other hand. Whether it is the rape, murder, or torture of an individual or a country is by far a greater "sin" These actions affect many either in a physical, or mentally devastating sort of way.
This administration outright lied to achieve the rape, torture and murder of a sovereign nation which has affected millions. When George farts and laughs about it, it only points out another flaw to add to a pile that already stinks to high heaven.
Which is the bigger lie? Which do you think should be impeachable? Does it really bother you that much that Clinton had an extra marital affair, yet it does not bother you that we were lied into a war with no end?
Yes, with Clinton there was Bosnia and there was also the continued brutal sanctions against Iraq, and there was also the use of Depleted Uranium. These things I will not forgive, yet he was impeached on a blow job.
Bush on the other hand has declared a world war on false pretenses. His administration has single handily done more damage to this country than can be repaired. He has ignored the Constitution, he has ignored international treaties, and he has ignored the will of the people not only of the United States, but of the world. But of course, as you said, who cares what the rest of the world thinks.
Humanity is in this as one Brother Man. When one nation suffers due to greed and hatred, humanity suffers as a whole. We really have to start looking at the bigger picture or we will prove that we do not have the right to exist. Extinction will be our only option.
You say that you are a follower of Christ. Very good. He is one of the many that I follow. Each one that I follow preached the same message over and over. I'll tell you what. The way we are living now is NOT what they preached. Not even close.
As long as we continue to have as leaders Madmen at the helm, we will never know peace. I'm not only talking here in the United States, I am talking the world over.
If we want to survive, we had best wake up. All of humanity has to wake up.
Sorry for the long post, and I hope that nothing in here offended you too greatly because this is not what I intended to do. As always, I am willing to keep an open dialogue with you as long as you remain civil and are willing to talk openly about the betterment of mankind.
Some think that I am a socialist. They are sadly mistaken. I am much worse than that. I am a follower of the Perennial Tradition. I want a better future for ALL of mankind.
Peace out.