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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:02 pm 
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'Deluded': Extraordinary attack on Blair by Cabinet
'Self-indulgent' PM urged to 'end the pantomime' as senior ministers meet to hasten his departure


By Francis Elliott, Whitehall Editor
Published: 03 September 2006


Tony Blair will be served notice to quit Downing Street at a meeting of the Cabinet next week when senior ministers plan to confront him over his refusal to commit to a departure timetable.

One described Mr Blair this weekend as "deluded", while another said he was being "self-indulgent". They are among a growing number of cabinet ministers, some formerly loyal to Mr Blair, who have concluded he must leave office sooner rather than later if Labour is to have a chance of winning a fourth term.

"This pantomime has to end or we are going to lose the next election," said one last night.

Another was brutally dismissive of the Prime Minister's attempt to "spray around policy initiatives" ahead of the party's annual conference in Manchester. "Tony is deluding himself if he thinks that anyone is listening to all this stuff."

Senior ministers were speaking last night of "near-panic" among MPs in marginal seats as Labour's poll ratings plunge because of the in-fighting.

One said that Mr Blair was being "self-indulgent" in seeking to bind the hands of his successor to ever-more radical reforms of the public services .

A group of senior ministers is determined at a meeting of a so-called "political Cabinet" next week to tell the Prime Minister to his face that he must give a clear timetable at the conference.

It will be the first time Mr Blair has met all his most senior colleagues since his controversial handling of the Lebanon conflict that led to near-mutiny.

His diminishing stock of political authority was laid bare when ministers such as Jack Straw and Douglas Alexander made clear their opposition to his hard-line stance.

Now he faces a full-scale revolt after suggesting that the "largest part" of those MPs who want him to go also desire a return to the beliefs and practices of "Old Labour".


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If he continues being friends with Bush, I think his departure might be sooner then later.


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If Blair does end up being evicted from #10, where does that leave Bush? Blair has been his supporter from the time the invasion of Iraq was being cooked up.



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Not sure. I think Bush has used Blair and since we are already at war, with no end in sight, I don't think Bush would care much.

I think what would hurt him though, is if the english started bringing their troops home and said enough is enough. That might just wake up some more people here and the whole war thing.

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IF anti-war leaders gain control of the British government, I believe there will be a gradual withdrawal of British troops from Iraq. However, I also believe that there's a Roverian nest in Britain which will simulate a "terror" attack in that country should the "need" arise....


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Aaah Ms Cat we agree on that. I also think there is one or two in this country.


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The new head of the British army has told the Guardian that his soldiers are fighting at the limit of their capacity

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Simulated Terror Attacks in the US? Of course...but that terrorist named Katrina wasn't a simulation, and she caught the vacationing Bush with his pants down....again. :roll:

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bush lap dog tony blair is facing the well deserved heat from many of his former supporters.

and i'm in total agreement with the potential for some form of terrorist event that could very well be facilitated by certain operatives or elements within the current administrations on both sides of the atlantic.

our own midterm elections this november are looming as a major threat to the neorovian mindset of the bushicons to finally be able to set thier ultimate agenda into permanence.

i have some serious doubts about them letting the prospect of a democratic takeover of one or both houses of congress ever coming to fruition. they fully realize if that happens then for all intents and purposes the heinousness of the bush/cheney/rove agenda comes to a screeching halt.

so what if a few hundred or thousand innocent american or british lives perish as the result of another attack. if that's what it takes to serve the greater cause it's a price they're all to willing to pay.

nero fiddeled while rome burned.
bush listened to "my pet goat" while airliners were slamming into the world trade center.

history usually repeats itself.

bushicons hate those who are able to remember the lessons taught.

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Paul Craig Roberts: 'The war is lost'

Pentagon to Congress: Bush Is Wrong

Paul Craig Roberts

The Pentagon's latest quarterly "progress" report to Congress on Iraq is a grim tale of a lost war. The Pentagon told Congress what Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and propaganda organs such as Fox "News" never tell the American public, namely:

(1) The Sunni-based insurgency remains "potent and viable" despite spiraling Sunni-Shiite violence and beefed up US forces.

(2) Since the last report three months ago, Iraqi casualties from "sectarian clashes"--the Pentagon's euphemism for civil war--have soared by more than 50 percent.

(3) From May when the new Iraqi government was established until August, the average number of weekly attacks increased sharply to 800.

(4) Since the previous report, Iraqi daily casualties have jumped by 50 per cent from 80 per day to 120 per day. Currently, Iraqis are dying at the rate of 43,800 per year from violence.



The Iraqi government cowers behind the fortified walls of the "Green Zone." On August 31, the Kurds in the north took down the Iraqi flag and replaced it with the Kurdish one. Most of Iraq is ruled by Shiite and Sunni militias. Conflict between them has forced 160,000 Iraqis to flee their homes.

Who is going to tell Bush that the war is lost?

Is Rumsfeld going to tell him?

Is Cheney going to tell him?

How can they tell him after all the bravado and false reports?

This is a delusional administration. Confronted with three major polls showing that two-thirds of Americans oppose the Iraq war, Bush declared that he is staying the course, demonstrating yet again his disdain for common sense and the will of the American people.




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Catherine wrote:
Who is going to tell Bush that the war is lost?

Is Rumsfeld going to tell him?

Is Cheney going to tell him?

How can they tell him after all the bravado and false reports?

This is a delusional administration. Confronted with three major polls showing that two-thirds of Americans oppose the Iraq war, Bush declared that he is staying the course, demonstrating yet again his disdain for common sense and the will of the American people.[/b]


The Pentagon told Bush that the war is lost. Then Bush went on the radio and mislead the listeners about the report. While he didn't technically lie, Bush laid some world class spin on the report. Compare excerpts from the Pentagon report to Bush's comment on it.

Pentagon wrote:
(1) The Sunni-based insurgency remains "potent and viable" despite spiraling Sunni-Shiite violence and beefed up US forces.


Bush wrote:
Working side-by-side with Iraqi forces, we recently launched a major new campaign to end the security crisis in Baghdad. This operation is still in its early stages, yet the initial results are encouraging.


Pentagon wrote:
(2) Since the last report three months ago, Iraqi casualties from "sectarian clashes"--the Pentagon's euphemism for civil war--have soared by more than 50 percent.


Bush wrote:
Our commanders and diplomats on the ground believe that Iraq has not descended into a civil war.


Pentagon wrote:
(3) From May when the new Iraqi government was established until August, the average number of weekly attacks increased sharply to 800.


Bush wrote:
The people of Baghdad are seeing their security forces in the streets, dealing a blow to criminals and terrorists. According to one military report, a Sunni man in a diverse Baghdad neighborhood said this about the Shia soldiers on patrol: "Their image has changed. Now you feel they are there to protect you." Over the coming weeks and months, the operation will expand throughout Baghdad -- until Iraq's democratic government is in full control of the capital.


Pentagon wrote:
(4) Since the previous report, Iraqi daily casualties have jumped by 50 per cent from 80 per day to 120 per day. Currently, Iraqis are dying at the rate of 43,800 per year from violence.



Bush wrote:
They report that only a small number of Iraqis are engaged in sectarian violence, while the overwhelming majority want peace and a normal life in a unified country. America will stand with the Iraqi people as they protect their new freedom -- and build a democracy that can govern itself, sustain itself, and defend itself.


Link: Bush's Weekly Radio Address

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