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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:50 pm 
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Sad but true, according to last surveys, neocon Nicolas Sarkosy will be elected president of France on May 6.

http://2007.tns-sofres.com/

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Sarkozy is one of the few European politicians to support U.S. illegal invasion of Iraq and the ongoing mass murderous Occupation of that country by the U.S. and Britain. His policy on Israel and the Palestinians is a U.S. policy. He said, he will “defend Israel’s security”, a deliberately constructed Western cliché designed to justify Israel’s terror, Israeli occupation of Palestinian land and dispossession of the Palestinian people from their land and their rights. He has praised France imperialist past, including France crimes against humanity. His attitude to Turkey’s membership in the European Union (EU) is: “If you let 100 million Turkish Muslims come in, what will come of it?” Of course the comment is grossly misleading and Sarkozy is engages in fear mongering and spreading of the Islamophobia virus.

Contrary to the Murdoch right-wing media, Sarkozy is not the “answer to France problems”. With 8.6 per cent overall unemployment (due to high rate among French youth), France is doing better than many countries in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). “[M]ost French have jobs and love their security; all French love their efficient public transport, high-speed trains running like clockwork at 320km/h, efficient urban planning, fine health services and excellent state primary and secondary schools”, wrote Professor Charles Sowerwine, of Melbourne University and the author of France since 1870: Culture, Politics and Society. It is evident why in 2005 the French voted against the (neoliberal) EU constitution.

If elected, Sarkozy will follow in George Bush’s footsteps. Sarkozy will compromise France independence, disregard international laws and civilised norms, and destroy constitutional freedoms. On May 06, the French people will have an important choice to make: reject extremism.


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Princess Nicolas taking the place of Princess Tony, perhaps?

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I hope not! Anyway, people of Foxnews seem very happy to have Sarko as future allied of Bush! :x
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Hmmmm. Now the people of France will finally be able to relate to the plight of us Americans.

Good luck with the whole wingnut, neocon thing.

We here in the states are just trying to get rid of ours.


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WE ARE DESOLATE THAT
OUR PRESIDENT IS AN IDIOT.
WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM

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Murdoch again. How do these poisonous rightwingers manage to capture people's imaginations?

That is all it takes--capturing people's imaginations. That is where all the ills of our society come from.

They do have a gift. Not one I admire, but it is a gift.

When did Christians start to ignore the teachings of Christ? Long, long ago, eh?

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Education dori! One should not believe in the ideas already made, given by the media. Even in the USA, yet a country where the press was exemplary not too long ago. It's necessary to choose carefully its sources of information, and to vary them, confront them. Listen or read only Foxnews or CNN, gives pleasure while reassuring oneself in a one vision of the world, but one doesn't get all information. It's necessary to listen and read other various media like NYT, C-SPAN and external media like BBC, CBC, France-Press, UPI, Al-Jazeera and the alternative press on the Net as much as republican than liberal etc… Your body needs a varied foods, your mind too. It's a question of education. In our societies, if there were a true system of education, one would give intellectual self-defence courses.


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There has been some investigations into election posters and etc. Seems he (Sarkosy) got his posters (in color) in the number one positions and the best of locations. As far as I can find out, this was supposed to be some kind of fair selection process. A lot of underhandedness going on over there. Dog & Pony shows are always the norm when it comes to elections and that's before, during and after. The media over there is controlled like it is here and in most Countries. The World Mafia Cartel want even stronger control in France. I thought they had plenty of control already, but apparently not! The French had better wise up fast or they will be even more screwed then they are now. One person I talked with (who is from France) said "France has lost much of her freedom already and I expect this will get even worse after the election."

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This guy is the same asswipe who called the immigrants "Scum" during the riots in France last year. Could this be a statement to these people as well? That they can expect things to get worse?

You can see where this is going. Cuts to social safety net, control of the media, etc. Modelled after the American system, the Rightwing agenda is well mapped out for this nouveau "Mini Bush", much like "Mini Bush" Harper in Canada is trying to do.

The whole world is crazy and our fearless leaders think they're right, in more ways than one! They all have to think the same as well!!! Consistent messages give uniformity to the global community, and people want repetitive consistency.

Comes from too many centuries of believing that lies are the truth. It's left us with the "vague uncertainty" syndrome that allows for doubt in reason. I thought we were past this kind of rhetoric and behaviour but obviously the world is developmentally challenged, or our vision of perfection, known as civilization, has a lot of growing to do before it gets "educated".

With the world leaders and their devoted moronic followers, I'll go with the latter. Methinks they prefer the dumbing down rather than the educating up. Seems some of us have developed those built in crap detectors required to think critically and are trying to give an "Intellectual Self defense" course here, to those too weakened and subdued by authority. Bullshit baffles billions- in all countries.

Too bad so many of the privileged 1st worlders live their dumbed down, laissez faire, shopping dilemma lives blindly deferring to authority to pay closer attention to whats really going on here. Our freedoms HARD won in America and France, at the same time, namely Liberte, Egalite et Fraternite were traded away for green zone guaranteed security to drive to Wal-Mart. So why did our forefathers do all this if it was just going to end up in a Monarchic Demockery? Perhaps this is the lesson we need to bring to the future survivors after these tools are done working it over. Armageddon it yet?

The real test of this lifetime turns out to be "Who is telling the truth", not "The truth is out there".

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Methinks they prefer the dumbing down rather than the educating up.


This does seem to be the case. People are suspicious of education, of intelligent people. Look at what passes for entertainment today. Would have gone over well in centuries past. There is a bias against critical thinking.

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The media over there is controlled like it is here and in most Countries.


Again, the media. Who controls the media has the attention of many if not most people. That is why the powers that be are trying to take over the internet.

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Your body needs a varied foods, your mind too. It's a question of education. In our societies, if there were a true system of education, one would give intellectual self-defence courses.


How very, very true! As it is now, every one of us has to be an educator. We have to seek out bits and pieces of information and present them to others.

Could this be why 'journalists' are being killed off around the world in such high numbers? Only the ones not in the pockets of rightwingers though. For instance, we purposely bombed Al-Jazeera, and independent journalists in Iraq. The list is very long.

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The guy from France told me that "politics is broke in France, just as it is in the USA, Canada and elsewhere. " I've also heard him say that "France seems to be a testbed for dishing freedom of speech at every opportunity." The Election in France will be another Dog & Pony show - The French version. Hail - little me - Bush.

Armageddon, Oh yeah -- Boom here and no one comes, Boom there and no comes, Boom elsewhere and no one comes. (Hmmm? .. This is how it is supposed to go, cause it says so right here the book.) The books are cooked and so are we if people don't wise up. I won't try and hold my breath waiting for them to get a clue though. Onward Christian Soldiers !

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After reading all your great comments, I wonder if we will know one day a more fair world. If the history of mankind is a repetition without end of mind manipulations, wars and scourges interrupted only by a few years of peace, would there be no hope for the future? Maybe true happiness would be in death?:cry:

This link gives the election results in real time. Click on the tricolor button at the top right of the page to get the national results for the 2 candidates. Results will begin at 2:00pm (TvnewsLIES time)

http://elections.france3.fr/afp/preside ... rigine=rfo

Some videos about the election campaign:

EuroNews - Campaign ends in French presidential election
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRcFtEVAIUI

French Election Preview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4NJc5nSus


Sarkozy Criticizes May 68 Generation
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ihfgbt9NSzk


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When cooking an election all that is necessary is to manipulate the small minority of votes that make the majority occur. This is sometimes done through the voters or the votes themselves.

In Mexico it was through manipulation of the voting machines. Here in the US it was done by making sure voting while black was not allowed in 2000 in Florida, and 2004 in Ohio.

When Bradley ran for governor in California, every poll showed him with at least a 15 percent advantage. He would lose the actual election by 5-10 percent. Most voters would not tell a polltaker the truth, there was no way in Hell they were going to vote for black man. This French election suffers from the same phenomenon, many fewer will vote for a woman thus giving the election to the NeoCon. The sexism in France is only rivaled by American sexism and racism. This is why the NeoCons salivate at the idea of Hillary or Barack getting the Dem nomination. Their candidate would start with a built in 15 to 25 percent hidden advantage.

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You're right about sexism and frauds with electronic machines. In France, there was 82 cities which used these devices for 1.5 million of the 43 million eligible French voters.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5324501

Can you imagine that if Gore had been elected instead of Bush in 2000, hundreds of thousands Iraqis and thousands of US military would be still alive today?


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