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 Post subject: Proactive police or harassment ?
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:19 am 
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"Proactive policing is pre-emptive. "In this 'pre-emptive' view, any citizen, certainly any socially uncharacteristic citizen, is a target for suspicion and observation". In other words, the crime is stopped before it is perpetrated."

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Or, if the crime is committed, the State can reconstruct evidence gained before the commission of the crime:

"Substantial evidence of this development can be found by examining the role of police information and intelligence gathering".

Proponents of pro-active policing believe that society is better served by focusing its attention and resources on a minority of society to protect the free society institutions against the threat from the criminal elements of that society."

The opponents of pro-active policing believe that, if left unregulated, police agencies could be used to suppress civil liberties and unpopular opinions. Governments may pressure agencies to monitor opposition groups to gain intelligence on their tactics.

Such practices can be rationalised as protecting the free institutions of the State. As governments become less popular, they will be tempted to increase their surveillance to suppress the opposition.

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** You can and will be targeted. You do not have to do anything illegal to be "profiled.......stalked, and harrassed". If you fit any kind of "profile" or have any kind of "history" you will very likely be "on a list".

Once this process starts, then they will ask questions and plant suspicions with many of the people you know and that you might associate with in some way; for instance....when you are shopping at a business, at work, or with your friends & neighbors.

They will also likely follow you around a lot and try to "get the goods" on you; bait you in some way, or try to harass you until you finally make a mistake.

(Watch a nature program about how wolves or wild dogs hunt to get an idea of how this is done...or watch a cowboy cut a steer out of a herd)

You have basically been convicted of a crime and are receiving punishment based on a cops suspicions or because you fit a pattern or have a "history".

In some or even many cases......the cops are responsible for actually causing crimes...though you can rest assured that they will never admit to this.

If you can be "hooked" into the so-called justice system...then they can legally control you...you then have second class citizen status. You are an untouchable.

If you are politically active or are a member of an unfavored group...you ARE a target.


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can you provide a link to read about this?

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:30 am 
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No. This post is based on experience.


Might want to read this:

http://www.rich-essence.com/TheHiddenEvil.pdf

Not a "fun" read...but if it relates to any of your own experiences...it's good info to know.


Maybe this site needs a section on civil rights?


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:41 pm 
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Attempted murder of an antifascist
A few days ago, at 6pm on the evening of the 16th of May, at the corner of Tamka and Dobrej streets in Warsaw, an antifascist activist was attacked by two nazis, with clear intentions to kill him. They had been following him, and suddenly, one of them stepped in front on him and sprayed him with pepper gas. Then the other one stabbed him in his back with a 30cm long knife. Maciek fell on the ground and was kicked by the nazis for a while, with them shouting "We'll kill you, you leftist motherfucker!".

Maciek was taken to the hospital and underwent serious life-saving surgery (when he got to the hospital the doctors said that his condition was "critical"), and is now recovering. He still is not 100% recovered, he still has blood in his lungs. He says that he is sure that the attack was due to the recent appearance of his personal data on a nazi site called "redwatch" (www.redwatch.info) which publishes names, addresses, photos and other personal data of human rights activists in order to encourage violent attacks against them. Redwatch is a web-site that has existed for several months now and it promotes the idea of "killing the enemies of the race" and the organization behind this is a very radical neofascist "Blood and Honor". The problem is that Maciek didn't have medical insurance, so that he may be forced to pay up to 20,000 PLN (5000 euros).

http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

It happens every where and is being done by every imaginable 'wanna be' force'. Even NGO's :roll:

Today NGOs may be international organizations or grassroots groups. Some of the funders are American Express Foundation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, AID, Canadian International Development Agency, Bristol Myers Squibb, Ford Foundation, Harvard, Oxfam and the UN Development Programs, all controlled by the elitists to do what they cannot do under government auspices, like foment revolution or radical change. They, under the guise of bringing democracy, open the door for foreign capital and business, resource extraction and military adventurism or training.

Then there is the US National Endowment for Democracy, created by Congress in 1983 to do openly what the CIA had been doing during the Cold War as covert activities. Used as pass-throughs, under covert funding, are the NEA, American Newspaper Guild, the National Student Association Act and a myriad of other phony foundations, groups and corporations. You can include as well the Chamber of Commerce, AFL-CIO, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs and the International Republican Institute. There are hundreds more funded by taxpayers or by the sale of narcotics. We must not leave out the Mott Foundation, Smith-Richardson and Mellon-Scaife Foundations. .......

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=58099

Then we have these folks. Shame 7 needs to go check in over there :lol:

The Stormfront White Nationalist Community is a prominent white nationalist / white pride / white supremacist Internet forum. It began as a dial-up Bulletin board system in 1990 and has been on the Internet since 1995. By 1997, Stormfront.org had expanded and began hosting other white-nationalist websites. Its motto is "White Pride World Wide". The site owner refers to Stormfront strictly as a white nationalist website. Permitted content covers a broad range of racialist / racist and far right beliefs, including extreme forms such as the belief in global segregation, although promotion of violence and illegality is banned.

Stormfront has over 83,000 members Source and has reportedly had as many as 4,865 users logged in at one time, yet only 25,406 members are currently listed as being active. It is the largest online community of white nationalists and has claimed to be the first website of its kind. Some of its members describe themselves as "National Socialists", among other descriptions including patriots, traditionalists, right wing, racialists, "true" conservatives, and "real" Americans.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)

You also might like "Minority Report" good movie. Preemptive law enforcement to go hand in hand with preemptive war. We are only 20 years behind Orwell :wink:

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