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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:36 pm 
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Dear MomsRising member - I almost got kicked out of a Flower & Garden Show for nursing my son ten years ago, but that pales in comparison to actually getting kicked off an airplane--as happened recently to a mother on a Delta Airlines flight in Vermont.
She was sitting on an airplane nursing her child in a next-to-last row window seat with her husband beside her (in other words, she was in a discreet location), when a flight attendant offered her a choice: Cover herself and her child with a blanket, or get off the plane. She declined the blanket, and was escorted off the plane.

MSNBC quotes her as saying, “It embarrassed me. That was my first reaction, which is a weird reaction for doing something so good for a child.”

SIGN THE PETITION TO DELTA AIRLINES AND CONGRESS: Tell Delta Airlines to get a clue and be supportive of breastfeeding mothers. And tell Congress it’s time to pass the Breastfeeding Promotion Act, which amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to protect breastfeeding mothers. Clearly this law is needed now!

*Click here to sign on to the petition (and then forward this e-mail on to friends so they can sign too): http://www.momsrising.org/breastfeeding-petition

WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY: The action Delta Airlines took flies in the face of what the medical profession and the government agree is best for mothers and children. In fact, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) actively advocates breastfeeding and states on their website that the, “CDC is committed to increasing breastfeeding rates throughout the United States and to promoting optimal breastfeeding practices.” And, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services leads a National Breastfeeding Awareness Campaign to promote breastfeeding, and notes on their website that, “The longer a mom and baby breastfeeds, the greater the benefits are for both mom and baby.” *Interested in knowing more? Read why the American Academy of Pediatrics advocates breastfeeding by clicking here: http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/fe ... eeding.htm

That’s some heavy evidence. So why was that mother publicly humiliated for doing what doctors, and even large government agencies, advocate?

SIGN NOW: Sign the petition (and then forward this e-mail on to friends so they can sign on to): http://www.momsrising.org/breastfeeding-petition

And feel free to also give the CEO of Delta Airlines a jingle (and a piece of your mind): Gerald Grinstein, Delta CEO, at (404) 715-2600—you’ll need to press 0 for the operator. While you’re at it, you might want to contact Lee Macenczak, Executive Vice President and Chief of Customer Service at the same number.

Best – The MomsRising Team


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:23 pm 
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What's so hard about throwing a blanket over yourself?

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I don't know?

Other then the fact that it is embarrassing to be singled out. Humiliating to be doing what is natural with your child and then asked to cover up, the fact that everybody in the plane was probably looking at her.

That is what was wrong with throwing a blanket over herself. Breast feeding is the most natural thing for a woman to do for her child.

Need I go on?

Being a woman and asking that question, you were just trying to start a debate huh?


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I don't think it was right for them to kick the lady off the plane...but she was given an alternative.

It may be a natural thing to do with your child, but when you're in public there's a certain amount of respect that should be shown to everyone. ..The lady breastfeeding, and the other passengers. A lot of people are uncomfortable with it.

All I'm saying is that covering yourself with a blanket is not a crazy thing to do when in public.

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OK then let me ask you this question. You and your boyfriend are on the plane. You start kissing each other, really getting into it. I walk up and tell you to stop it, that a airplane is not the place for you to be doing that. Either stop it or get off the plane.

Your first words I would guess would not be pretty to me.

Second, this woman was in the back of the plane, she was on the inside and her husband was next to the aisle. Most woman that I know when breast feeding do not just hang it out there and put the baby to the nipple. They usually bare just what is necessary and the babies head usually covers what little is there is to see. I could almost say without fear of being wrong that with her husband blocking her the rest of the plane would not even have known she was breast feeding if nobody had mentioned it.

Was not like baby was sucking on one and her husband on the other. :lol: Now that would have caused a scene. :lol:


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OK then let me ask you this question. You and your boyfriend are on the plane. You start kissing each other, really getting into it. I walk up and tell you to stop it, that a airplane is not the place for you to be doing that. Either stop it or get off the plane.
Your first words I would guess would not be pretty to me.


First off...that would never happen. When it comes to public places, I'm very conscious of other people and what should and should not be displayed in public. ....If it were a simple kiss, which is fine, then my words would definutely not be pretty. :lol:


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Second, this woman was in the back of the plane, she was on the inside and her husband was next to the aisle. Most woman that I know when breast feeding do not just hang it out there and put the baby to the nipple.


Is the back of the plane not where the bathrooms are?....
Either way, though, people walk by, see it, are uncomfortable...or not...depending.

So what's the big deal with covering ir up?..completely.

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When you have a child and want to breast feed and are asked to cover up then you will know. If my wife was breast feeding and was asked to cover up something that could probably not be seen anyway. she would not have been the only one that was told to get off the plane. I would have made sure that those on the plane KNEW WHY we were leaving.

What if I told you that even simple kissing offended me? I then went to a steward and told him that what you were doing offended me and it was my right as a passenger not to have to see it?

This woman was not harming anyone. She was doing what is natural. I simply don't understand how another woman can defend the actions of Delta? I would think it would outrage you as it has done to other woman.


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AND some babies can't breastfeed and have their heads covered up with a blanket, especially on a plane. Maybe the baby had a cold.

Frankly, a breast-feeding mom isn't baring any more of her breast than some of the teenyboppers I've seen bouncing around Wal-Mart in their open-necked tees. The low-slung jeans they're all wearing also show lots more skin than the breastfeeding mom, who is doing the most natural thing in the whole world...nourishing her young.

I'd much rather see a bit of mom's breast exposed when a child is nursing than a dirty butt crack hanging out of a pair of nasty, low-slung jeans which the owner has had to spend an hour trying to get over her big belly, which also hangs down and out in the front for all to see.

Talk about skin! :roll:

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Damn, I had forgotten that. Jo what would happen if somebody walked up to you and said they were offended by what you were wearing?

This was bullshit, from the start. I hope that her husband said something on the way out the plane. I just wished the hell some of the people on the plane had stood up and done the right thing.


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This is another form of control. It is perfectly natural to breast-feed a baby. Some babies (my daughter was one) cannot have their faces covered. They panic. I breast-fed both of my children without ever exposing my nipple.

I am with you DK. I would have made a seen and I would have expected my husband to do the same. By the time I got finished with my say, that stewardess would have been very embarrassed. I am sure there were some others on that plane with breasts exposed and they weren't feeding a baby.

Petition signed. It is a crime when women have to fight to feed their babies in the most natural and healthy way.

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Jo I hope you know that I am not picking on you or implying anything personal. This is just a discussion. OK?


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Ah, DK, you are too picking on me!..just like I'm picking on you! :lol:

As for the whole clothing issue, well that's a whole other topic. :P I'm sure that some of the older members here find quite a lot of the clothing now a days to be offensive, that I don't even think twice about. However, I don't believe I'd fit into the "showing skin" category, as I am a very conservative dresser. ..I just don't have a problem with a little skin showing on others.

But anyways, like I said in the beginning, I don't think it's fair that the lady got kicked off the plane for what she was doing, as it's not illegal! ..and I do understand some of the points you guys were making. For instance, I wasn't aware that some babies have problems with having their heads covered.
I also hope though, that my point is understood to. What's the problem with covering yourself up, if asked to? (As long as your baby doesn't have a problem with it..) I'm sure the reason why the stewardess asked her to in the first place, was because somebody complained.

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I'm sure the reason why the stewardess asked her to in the first place, was because somebody complained


Interesting point, because I'm not sure where the "cover up or get off" order originated...was it from the captain or some Delta exec? Did another passenger complain directly to the stewardess and she took it upon herself to make the directive?

If this info was in the original report, I missed it, so maybe someone else can clarify.

Perhaps the stewardess is a rightwing puritan redneck, too, giving unauthorized directives...it wouldn't surprise me if she turns out to be a fundie.

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Got this in my email today! :D

SPEAKING OF THE MOVEMENT--BREASTFEEDING UPDATE:

We have exciting news on this front: You all are amazing! Last week in response to news that a ticket agent forced a mother off a Freedom Air flight run by Delta Air Lines for breastfeeding on-board, MomsRising put up a petition and you responded. In less than a week the petition gathered over 20,000 signatures telling Delta Air Lines that breastfeeding mothers should be supported, as well as supporting the Breastfeeding Promotion Act before Congress. Over 20,000!

Emails and calls from MomsRising members, as well as regular updates about the high number of petition signatures, pushed both Delta and Freedom Airlines to issue statements underscoring their commitment to allowing women to breastfeed onboard planes. Freedom Air also noted that the incident would serve as a training opportunity for all employees.

DELTA AIRLINES STATEMENT: "Delta Air Lines supports a mother’s right to breastfeed her baby onboard our aircraft. We regret the decision to remove the passenger from Flight 6160 as it was not in keeping with Delta's high service standards, and we are coordinating with Freedom Airlines to ensure that they deliver the level of service we expect for all of our customers."

NEXT STEPS: Right now, Delta Airlines is contemplating officially supporting the Breastfeeding Promotion Act which is currently before Congress. So please give Delta a call to thank them for taking a strong stand on behalf of breastfeeding mothers, and encourage Delta to actively support the Breastfeeding Promotion Act. Getting more signatures on the petition helps let our leaders know that citizen support is strong.

*To sign the petition (and ask friends to sign on), go to: http://www.momsrising.org/breastfeeding-petition

MomsRising is committed to making it possible for all mothers who want to breastfeed their children to be able to do so. In an effort to build a country that's truly family-friendly, MomsRising supports policies and programs that allow mothers to make that choice—including policies like paid family leave and flexible work options.


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Outstanding. Guess they won't be handing the next woman a blanket and asking her to cover up.


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