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 Post subject: Depleted Uranium to blame???
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:08 am 
This is kind of a personal question for myself and family.
I have a son-in-law who served over in Kabul, Afghanistan. He was part of the Canadian communications set up during the first part of the war, so he was in and out between Kabul and other countries. He has developed terrible gout in his feet and he has started to lose the hair on his head. Not balding, however. He has spots on his head where there is no hair. Completely bald spots.
Can anyone tell me if they believe this may be connected to the depleted uranium that was being dumped over there?
Thank you.


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All of our guys and gals are going to be going through some terrible times because of DU. Not to mention we are making the area over there hot for the people who live there.

Best to read up on DU. You probably won't be able to sleep well afterward. We are subjecting our people and the native peoples to this horror.

After you read about it, you are not going to think of us as 'nice people' ever again. But half of us never wanted any of this to happen. It is the people in power and those who do not care that are behind all this suffering.


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Lucas...go here for starters:

http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/mettoc.htm

http://www.cadu.org.uk/

http://www.stopnato.org.uk/du-watch/

There should be links at these sites.

Good luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:59 am 
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Lucas

Sorry to hear that !

I read about such things happenning some time ago. (First Iraq war.) If I remember correctly, it may be DU related, or the shots they were given? Some of the stuff from those shots could not be ID'ed. (Blood test.) After the troops came home, they started to get sick. Hair loss was one of the things mentioned. I forget where I read it, but it is something go on / search out.

Check out Catherine's links and I've added a few more for later.

The Last Battle of the Gulf War --- FRONTLINE
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... cript.html

THE GULF WAR'S TROUBLING LEGACY
http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Gulf% ... egacy2.htm

Death By Slow Burn - How America Nukes Its Own Troops
What 'Support Our Troops' Really Means
By Amy Worthington - The Idaho Observer
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/05/02/article_io.htm

Something else - http://home.att.net/~vetcenter/vic-odssa.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:27 pm 
Thank you very much for the sites and the information!
The Army has my son-in-law convinced that he has the gout and alopecia. But what it sounds like to me is that he has been exposed to this DU. He has also aged considerably since he's been back from the war. Looking at pictures of him before the war, and now, 2 years later....its pretty apparent. He's on medication for his alopecia and gout now, has been since he's been back, and probably will have to be for his life.
When will this issue be brought to the forefront of our attention? When will people say 'enough is enough'?
Will all our brave men and women have to die in vain before anyone takes center stage and tells the world the truth.....?


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Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed

by Bob Nichols

02/23/05 "SFBV" - - Considering the tons of depleted uranium used by the U.S., the Iraq war can truly be called a nuclear war. Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter charged Monday that the reason Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium munitions in the Iraq War.

Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Constitutional Law in New York, stated, “The real reason for Mr. Principi’s departure was really never given, however a special report published by eminent scientist Leuren Moret naming depleted uranium as the definitive cause of the ‘Gulf War Syndrome’ has fed a growing scandal about the continued use of uranium munitions by the US Military.”

Bernklau continued, “This malady (from uranium munitions), that thousands of our military have suffered and died from, has finally been identified as the cause of this sickness, eliminating the guessing. The terrible truth is now being revealed.”

He added, “Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding number of ‘Disabled Vets’ means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems!” The disability rate for the wars of the last century was 5 percent; it was higher, 10 percent, in Viet Nam.

“The VA Secretary (Principi) was aware of this fact as far back as 2000,” wrote Bernklau. “He, and the Bush administration have been hiding these facts, but now, thanks to Moret’s report, (it) ... is far too big to hide or to cover up!”

“Terry Jamison, Public Affairs Specialist, Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Department of Veterans Affairs, at the VA Central Office, recently reported that ‘Gulf Era Veterans’ now on medical disability, since 1991, number 518,739 Veterans,” said Berklau.

“The long-term effects have revealed that DU (uranium oxide) is a virtual death sentence,” stated Berklau. “Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist, who retired from the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, and was also involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in the soldiers (from the 2003 Iraq War) as ‘spectacular … and a matter of concern!’”

When asked if the main purpose of using DU was for “destroying things and killing people,” Fulk was more specific: “I would say it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people!”

Principi could not be reached for comment prior to deadline.

References

1. Depleted uranium: “Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets: A death sentence here and abroad” by Leuren Moret, http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Deplete ... 1804.shtml

2. Veterans for Constitutional Law, 112 Jefferson Ave., Port Jefferson NY 11777, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director, (516) 474-4261, fax 516-474-1968.

3. Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter. Email Gary Kohls, gkohls@cpinternet.com, with “Subscribe” in the subject line.

Email Bob Nichols at bobnichols@cox.net.

Copyright: San Francisco Bay View

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le8172.htm

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Lucas,

I do wish your son-in-law the very best as well as your whole family!

Here are some additional links about this issue but I have to agree with Lori, you won't be able to sleep well after reading but I hope you will find someone who is able to help you!

http://traprockpeace.org/depleted_uranium.html

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du.htm

http://omega.twoday.net/topics/Depleted ... oning+(D.U.)/?start=10

In case there are more of your soldiers with health problems - maybe they could consider to sue the US Government and seek redress.
As american soldiers aren't allowed to sue their own government re the Feres Doctrine, perhaps a lawsuit from outside the US could help to end this horrible madness, at least it could give the use of DU weaponry more public attention.

Good luck and take care!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:00 pm 
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Lucas wrote:
This is kind of a personal question for myself and family.
I have a son-in-law who served over in Kabul, Afghanistan. He was part of the Canadian communications set up during the first part of the war, so he was in and out between Kabul and other countries. He has developed terrible gout in his feet and he has started to lose the hair on his head. Not balding, however. He has spots on his head where there is no hair. Completely bald spots.
Can anyone tell me if they believe this may be connected to the depleted uranium that was being dumped over there?
Thank you.


I am truely sorry, Lucas. :(

Two of my online pals were participants in the Bush War 1 and both have GWS. Their illness is why I started posting on forums 2 years ago.

I suggest joining one or more of the du yahoogroups. Here is one I belong to...
DU Watch.

Many of the same people that pen the articles we link to, post at this site... Bob Nichols for one, Dennis Kyne for another... their membership list is a compendium of who's who in DU...

Again... I am sorry for what my country has done to our planet...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:09 pm 
Thanks for the relpies and respectful condolences. I appreciate them greatly. Thanks also for all the sites you've al been posting. Lots to get through but I'm sure it'll give me a better understanding of what's what.

TheStripey1, thanks for the forum site. I'll check into that and see what its like. Hopefully it can answer some more of the questions I have.

Some of the sites I've been through are pretty shocking. Part of me doesnt want to believe that something like this is possible in our day and age, but its all there in black and white. Our morally bankrupt age of shock and awe. Our society, the world society, is teetering on the edge of moral bankruptcy and playing it off as a war for freedom. When will we realize that our fight for freedom lies not on the battle field, but here in our backyards? Our war, our 'fight for freedom', being waged in a far away land in the middle east, is not the war it seems we should concern ourselves with. Its the war on ethics, morals and integrity, that our governments set out to manipulate and destroy, that we need to combat and win. Because we are slowly losing. And once we've lost this war, and lost all the things that make us who we are, I'm not to optimistic about us ever regaining our cherished past.

Praying for the peace we need so desperately....


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Amen Brother Lucas... Amen.

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Some of the sites I've been through are pretty shocking. Part of me doesnt want to believe that something like this is possible in our day and age, but its all there in black and white. Our morally bankrupt age of shock and awe. Our society, the world society, is teetering on the edge of moral bankruptcy and playing it off as a war for freedom. When will we realize that our fight for freedom lies not on the battle field, but here in our backyards? Our war, our 'fight for freedom', being waged in a far away land in the middle east, is not the war it seems we should concern ourselves with. Its the war on ethics, morals and integrity, that our governments set out to manipulate and destroy, that we need to combat and win. Because we are slowly losing. And once we've lost this war, and lost all the things that make us who we are, I'm not to optimistic about us ever regaining our cherished past.

Praying for the peace we need so desperately....
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No one could have said this better.

Good luck in your search for answers, and for health to return to your son-in-law, and peace to your entire family.


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