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 Post subject: Lieberdummy pushes new war....
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:45 am 
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Sen. Joseph Lieberman, a long-time supporter of the Iraq war, said on Sunday military force might be necessary to stop Iran from training and equipping extremists who are killing U.S. troops.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," the Connecticut independent said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"And to me, that would include a strike into -- over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers," he said.


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Nothing about bringing our troops home so they won't be attacked?

Oh, yeah, that is us non-patriots...

And Conn. doesn't allow people to be recalled. America is stuck with him in the Senate for six years!

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Lieberman currently holds the real control over the Senate. If he "turns Repub officially," the Dems will lose their skinny majority. How's that for power? :evil:

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 Post subject: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel?
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"In the greatest service of his long public life, former President Jimmy Carter warns of the grave consequences of America's phenomenal subservience to Israel. In his latest book and recent lectures, he focuses on how Israel's cruel occupation, made possible by massive and unconditional U.S. support, has subjected the Palestinian people to terrible suffering for forty long years. Beyond that grave human tragedy, candid observers must cite U.S. complicity in Israeli lawlessness as the major factor that prompted the horror of 9/11 and lured America into launching three costly, wrong-headed, and failing wars – Afghanistan, Iraq and the War on Terror.
The linkage is easily identified.

America's support of Israel's brutality was the main motivation for 9/11. It was the ultimate expression of Arab fury over America's double standard that routinely ignores Israeli violations of Arab human rights. Nine-eleven would not have happened if any U.S. president in the last forty years had refused to finance Israel's humiliation and destruction of Palestine. Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst now a consultant to CBS News, recently told a congressional committee that "our unqualified support of Israel" was the main reason for 9/11. Marine General Anthony Zinni, President George W. Bush's first special envoy to the Middle East, has stated that the United States invaded Iraq for Israel and oil. Osama bin Laden repeatedly said it was payback for U.S. support of Israel's brutal treatment of Palestinians and other Arabs and for U.S. complicity in 1982 when Israeli forces used U.S.-donated munitions to massacre over 18,000 innocent Arabs in Lebanon.

The U.S. acts of war in Afghanistan and the War on Terror were President Bush's retaliation for 9/11. Israel – and only Israel – urged the United States to invade Iraq. Israel's lobby in Washington pushed hard and prevailed. To our foreign critics, these wars focus on killing people outraged by our pro-Israel bias. Our government has done nothing to redress the grievances of Israel's victims.

Despite this grim record, U.S. subservience to the wishes of Israel's leaders does not change. Unconditional aid to Israel keeps flowing, as does Israel's savage treatment of Palestinians and other Arabs. Moreover, the Bush administration is fully and openly pledged to do whatever is necessary – even acts of war – to halt Iran's nuclear program even if its projects are lawfully limited to peaceful purposes. Israel is the only nation urging the United States to attack Iran. The lobby is pushing hard again. If the U.S. assaults Iran it will be on Israel's behalf.

Congress, like the rest of America, is totally devoid of debate on the amazing role of this small nation in critical U.S. policy. Members are fulsome in public praise of the Jewish state, but no politician mentions the illegal behavior of Israel or the staggering burden it imposes on our country."


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Well, a portion of Palestine was taken away and given to Israel after WWII, because of the atrocities committed to them before and during that war. Now the ones committing atrocities are the Israel government itself.

I wonder what would have happened if say, Texas was taken away and given to the Israelis rather than Palestine? Would we be any more welcoming to them?

Somehow I can't picture that.

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My personal belief is that establishing Israel ranks as one of the bigger mistakes made geopolitically worldwide.

Probably a little late to make it just go away....but there is NO DAMNED SENSE in letting these idiots start WW2.

And there is no sense in the US playing copy cat and setting itself up in the same way...but on a bigger scale. But I guess the bigger the chicken....the bigger the egg it lays? The US is one dumb bird.....

...but there are profits to be made?


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You said the magic word--profit.

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And you don't have to be a prophet to see this!!

I read somewhere that the Aussies offered free land to the Jews ar the end of WW2, but that wasn't good enough for them. Even though they sould have created the 40 year march in circles as a "Walkabout", the idea of distant sands was far too much for them. There was no profit in this prophetic appeasal. In reality, "They" wanted to stir up the foment- they being the U.S.- and gain a thorny foothold in the land of oil. What is happening is a result of that baby growing into a terribly spoiled brat, who's parents encourage its bad behaviour by supplying the tools of irritation .

Small arms sales and the use of small arms is the # 1 killing industry on the planet, and we're up to supplying and killing whomever wants to fight.

Let the bullets sort it out. If it leads to WW3 so be it- It has already been factored into the fractal possibilities.

"Pass the lord and praise the ammunition......"- classic WW1 dirge ( or something like it!)

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"Pass the lord and praise the ammunition......"- classic WW1 dirge ( or something like it!)


Isn't that our national anthem?

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If things don't get started seriously with Iran BEFORE the next elections...it WILL be a miracle?

Too many people with too much to lose? Between a rock and a hard place...........

Think energy prices are high now? Think the Mideast is a mess now?


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