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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:20 am 
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It's unfortunate that Barack Obama has taken heat from some of the dems and the repubs for his stance on Pakistan and Afghanistan.

He really isn't saying anything different than those who seriously feel we should be shifting the so-called "war on terror".

And let us not forget, the current presidential administration. If you want to call out Obama, then dem and repubs alike ought to also mention the actions and the tough talk by Mr. Big-time Failure:

Recall that Bush's people went on a terrorist bombing run in Pakistan. And not only did they kill would-be terrorists, but they killed women and children. That one rubbed a raw nerve for a while in Pakistan.

And of the middle of July 2007, the Bush admin contemplated threatening ... Action in Pakistan

And just how much of an ally is Pakistan, when Pakistan Says US Claim That bin Laden Near Capture is Politicking .

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Perhaps you've heard of Tim Osman?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_cia.html

Thanks for finding these items. It is also clear that as a spokesperson of the CFR that Obama is in the elites back pocket and ready to continue the war ad nauseum. Same with Hitllery who is ready to continue the battles to please her masters. It's almost comical seeing these people bow down to their masters like the dogs they are grabbing whatever scraps they can hang onto to get more power.

Sickening display of grovelling. Is this what it takes to become president? To be just a figurehead for power means you crawl up to your masters for the privilege of acting as a leader? What has this world become? A strategy of deception at best

First watch this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3u ... ed&search=

Then watch this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWvHbOoG3tI

He he. What a joke.

Check out this site-
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I'm watching the first film now and there are 2 more to go. Could take time- first one is an hour long. Check out the names of those associated with the CFR!!!

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So much our great ally in the middle east.

Dear Mrs. Clinton, what do you think of this?

US documents show Pakistan gave Taliban military aid

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Julian Borger, diplomatic editor | Thursday August 16, 2007 | The Guardian

The Pakistani government gave substantial military support to the Taliban in the years leading up to the September 11 attacks, sending arms and soldiers to fight alongside the militant Afghan movement, according to newly released US official documents.

Islamabad has acknowledged diplomatic and economic links with the Taliban but has denied direct military support. The US intelligence and state department documents, released under the country's freedom of information act, show that Washington believed otherwise.

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The suspicion has lingered that some elements of Pakistani intelligence are still protecting the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies in the autonomous tribal areas along the Afghan border. US officials have warned they might take direct military action without Islamabad's approval.

Among the documents acquired by the National Security Archive, an independent group pressing for government transparency, is a confidential memo sent in November 1996, from intelligence report from Islamabad to the Defence Intelligence Agency in Washington, describing how Pakistan's paramilitary Frontier Corps was operating across the border.

The Frontier Corps are recruited from the Pashtun population in the tribal areas, but commanded by officers from the regular Pakistani army.
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Romney's "Marshall Plan" against "radical jihadism". Hasn't he learned anything from Bush's failings in this area (i.e., the Coalition of the Willing)?

Mitt used B.. Bhutto's death to talk about his ideas on a Middle East foreign policy.

Romney Calls for a “New Course Altogether” Against Violent Islamic Jihadism
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He proposed holding a summit of Middle East allies and major developed nations with the goal of a new type of Marshall Plan, which he called the “Partnership for Prosperity and Progress.” The objective of the strategy would be to ensure that “threatened Islamic states had public schools, not Wahhabi madrasas, micro-credit and banking, the rule of law, human rights, basic health care and competitive economic policies,” he said.


But it seems that Bush had been talking up a Marshall Plan for years. And if that was supposed to be the COTW, this article argues that nobody really bought it.
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You may recall, “Coalition of the Willing” (COTW) was the marketing term used by the White House in 2003 to convince American voters that an international consensus supported the Iraq invasion. Prewar polls indicated Americans did not want to go into war alone.

“When you have a look at the coalition of the willing … you can see that this is actually many nations who share the United States’ approach,” said White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer less than a week before the invasion.

COTW was also adopted by such Bush Kool-Aid drinkers as the right-wing think tank the Heritage Foundation. “‘Coalition of the Willing’ Already Larger than the 1991 Gulf War coalition” was a headline of one of its news releases.

Did “many nations,” in fact, “share the United States’ approach” in Iraq? Was the COTW larger than the alliance assembled to carry out the 1991 war to extract Saddam’s army from Kuwait?

No and hell no.

During the first Gulf War, Arab nations and Turkey contributed close to 300,000 troops to the invasion force. And financial pledges from other nations, including Saudi Arabia and Japan, exceeded the actual cost of the war.

The COTW for this war was largely a list of small nations who contributed almost nothing to the invasion and subsequent occupation forces.

So, what makes Romney so special? Won't countries see his new Marshall Plan just another take on Bush foreign policy?

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Perhaps you've heard of Tim Osman?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_cia.html

Thanks for finding these items. It is also clear that as a spokesperson of the CFR that Obama is in the elites back pocket and ready to continue the war ad nauseum. Same with Hitllery who is ready to continue the battles to please her masters. It's almost comical seeing these people bow down to their masters like the dogs they are grabbing whatever scraps they can hang onto to get more power.

Sickening display of grovelling. Is this what it takes to become president? To be just a figurehead for power means you crawl up to your masters for the privilege of acting as a leader? What has this world become? A strategy of deception at best

First watch this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3u ... ed&search=

Then watch this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWvHbOoG3tI

He he. What a joke.

Check out this site-
http://houston911truth.org/tag/barack-obama/

I'm watching the first film now and there are 2 more to go. Could take time- first one is an hour long. Check out the names of those associated with the CFR!!!


All of the top tier candidates are pandering to the global masters who employ the CFR ranks to get their genocidal ideals employed. All of them.

Wish I could watch the videos but my DSL connection is so slow that it takes an afternoon to download a one hour YouTube video. Everything has to be routed through f*dcentral with time for analysis it would seem.

Those who lick the hands of these particular masters are beyond redemption. Want to know why Hillary, Ghouliani, and McCain all appeared together on the Tonight show? So they wouldn't get boo'd off the stage me thinks.

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McCain supports Bush. Bush once supported a particular position on Pakistan (bombing it). Obama had the same position. Yet McCain criticizes Obama's Bush position?

Obama’s Pakistan position endorsed by Bush in ‘06.
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In a segment today about Sen. John McCain’s misleading attacks on Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) willigness to act against al Qaeda in Pakistan, CNN notes that President Bush took the same position as Obama in a 2006 interview with Wolf Blitzer. “Absolutely,” said Bush when asked if he “would give the order” to “kill or capture” al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan, even if the Pakistani government objected.
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So McCain should then condemn this:

Unilateral Strike Called a Model For U.S. Operations in Pakistan
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By Joby Warrick and Robin Wright | Washington Post Staff Writers | Tuesday, February 19, 2008; Page A01

In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center.

The missiles killed Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior al-Qaeda commander and a man who had repeatedly eluded the CIA's dragnet. It was the first successful strike against al-Qaeda's core leadership in two years, and it involved, U.S. officials say, an unusual degree of autonomy by the CIA inside Pakistan.
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