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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:21 am 
Lot's of good stuff on this forum. I know this film is already referenced here and there, but it should have it's own slug also. Russo was on Black Op Radio #296 this evening (audio and notes to be posted within 24 hours), and he's encouraging the next step, which is civil disobedience, with the objective of getting the Congress to finally do what it has the power to do, to shut down the Federal Reserve cartel and make the United States a Constitutional Republic once again.

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Thanks Glass. Just watched the short version ( the 36 minute interview )

Here: http://naam.pair.com/aftf1626/AFTF/

This is an easy to listen to and very informative interview. Topics covered are income tax, the Federal Reserve, fascism and world economic power, represented by the banks and their owners.

I have only recently learned myself about this nefarious Federal Reserve and the role and power that they have. It is ominous indeed. I think America needs to be shaken up and it is short interviews like this one that can accomplish that goal.

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Like to bump this up and add a small item as well This was from Glass Race also originally at his old site. He has a new site now- Black Lightning and it's worth checking out. Brand new, he needs some people to come over and say hello.

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html

About the Federal Reserve as well. A short read about its history and who are the major banks and individuals involved, like Nelson Aldrich. This is a real problem and the banks should be held accountable for indebting us with their free money. Actually, it costs them ~$1.20 to make a banknote- ANY denomination, so they do have to put up an initial investment. :roll:

C'mon eh? they're trying to help us by enslaving us in debt. What else did we have planned for life anyway? To live like KINGS? Sorry the elite don't need competition, they need serfs and vassals.

What was Sir Irates old moniker? "DEBT- an ingenious substitute for the slavemasters whips and chains". Planet Usury indeed :!:

Just 'cause you cain't see em, don't mean they ain't there.

Chains, my bankers got me locked up in chains but they ain't the kind that you can see, whoo oo these chains of deeeebt gotta hold on me, yeah Dadat dadat dada. (Sorry Beatles-both living and dead- for my butchery- but I'm sure "Taxman" John would approve)

This is GR;'s new site. Drop by and say hello.

http://blacklightning.freeforums.org/in ... 39b2f34ab1

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FRBS .. Isn't something new. A long time ago, it was figured out that a larger value of notes could be written off gold, then what was actually in hold. Like - Writings notes that valued $500.00 with only $50.00 of gold or less. This lead to fiat money / currency. We need a system that they can't control. One they can't manipulate. Something in return for labor? Like goods or other services maybe? This is complicated with the Market system, money corridors, the offshore and so much else. I'm no economist.

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I suggested once they use silver since it is more abundant and can't be inflated. It has remained near the same price for years especially relative to gold and only the Hunt's were found out trying to manipulate its price.

The other idea's you gave SI should work too but are sometimes bulky and hard to carry around. Didn't Seattle try to formulate their own currency, but couldn't get stores to purchase it or use it as tender. The Fed. Res. excuse states that anyone can create a monetary system, but I bet if you try and incorporate it, I'm sure the full weight of their oppression will come down on any who support it.

Some random social inspired ideas- get rid of the fed and start a new system of fund transfer based on exchange of goods and services. Government could also go back to printing and loaning money at lower interest rates and enjoy the profits. This would probably eliminate most taxes in America as they could use interest funds for their services. If more funding was required, then an appeal could go out for donations or our government could have bake sales to buy things. I for one would support their bake sales! :lol: :lol: :lol:

It has to be done for people to base life on real equality, and so each is entitled by degree of participation with necessity of demand. If we value one item more than another it makes for unfair trading exchange so we have to admit that all must benefit from efforts. Until this has been established, there will always be an unfair and imbalanced scale of equality here on earth. Knowledge and understanding is the only recipe for success we have. By building trust through sharing and caring we could change the way the world economies are structured and return to a fair system of mutual assistance and exchange of necessities.

Unfortunately it hinges on us to give, so that they can attain our level of comfort and security for it to work and the way people cling to their stuff makes me aware that this may be an insurmountable problem. So people hang onto this casino roulette wheel of choices of success as limited, but a goal to make one salivate more than Pavlov's dog. That way some win, some get by but most lose badly.

The old carrot of greed is still working as we sleepwalk to the end of democracy. Some choice, some freedom, some security. :roll:

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I suggested once they use silver since it is more abundant and can't be inflated. It has remained near the same price for years especially relative to gold and only the Hunt's were found out trying to manipulate its price.

. :roll:


JFK also wanted to do away with the Federal Reserve System and back the dollar with Silver. I still have 3 Two Dollar Silver Certificates issued by his administration the last of those. JFK also wanted to withdraw all 17,000 military advisors from Vietnam and stop that war before it started and he also swore he would destroy the CIA !!!!!!!! Well we all now know how that turned out :evil:
Like Eisenhower said "Beware the military-industrial complex"!!!

On 23rd December 1913 the house of representatives had past the Federal Reserve Act, but it was still having difficulty getting it out of the senate. Most members of congress had gone home for the holidays, but unfortunately the senate had not adjourned sene die (without day) so they were technically still in session. There were only three members still present. On a unanimous consent voice vote the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was passed. No objection was made, possibly because there was no one there to object. .....

It was Woodrow Wilson that sold America to the foreign Bankers who still own it.

http://www.xat.org/xat/history2.html

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I guess things really got bad around the time of the Vietnam War as relates to the creation of debt. Nixon dropped the gold standard in 1971 and debt creation really got going. This debt creation increased even more of course under the Republican regimes of Reagan and now Bush. I think the case is pretty strong that the military industrial complex is creating a lot of debt thanks to the bankers who are good at creating money out of thin air. It is almost conspiratorial isn't it. Bankers and Republicans I mean. Are thes guys really worth the billions of dollars of American taxpayer money for what they do? I mean isn't this the real issue and scam in America, ie. doing something that the government could do for itself for much less or nothing? Isn't it truly amazing that I, a person in his fifties did not even know that the Federal Reserve Bank is just a bunch of private bankers having a field day collecting cash is an obscene system of debt creation? But, then that is the beauty of the scam isn't it? Sounds pretty doesn't it - The Federal Reserve Bank.

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U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Jul 2007 at 12:19:18 AM GMT is:
$ 8 , 8 9 9 , 3 1 7 , 2 9 9 , 5 0 5 . 5 2

The estimated population of the United States is 302,483,421
so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,420.84.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.33 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House

http://brillig.com/debt_clock/

Lots of kewl links as well like 3200 of them :wink:

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http://www.babylontoday.com/national_debt_clock.htm

Sounds Official just like a Government Agency. And I wouldn't feel to bad most bankers and stock brokers that you or I would come in contact with have no idea it is composed and controlled by private bankers in Europe for the most part. Hell they probably can't even balance their own check books. Just envision the people that run your local bank. What the hell do they know !!!!!!!
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Yes, they should do bake sales :lol: .. Roosevelt called for Gold to be turned in and it was purchased at low prices. I've never been able to figure out why JFK liked Roosevelt so much and some of the things he did? Oh and from what I have read, it seems the the Gold of the US was shipped to England. Those who have power over money, have power over everything else in this Capitalist World. I think they'll be able to control money if one can touch it, or so to speak. True, they won't take kindly to any changes and because of that, it most likely it will never happen. We do need a better way to do things. Who is powerful enough to do it and stand up to them and make it happen? Most Countries are already under control. They want everything global , like Governments, money and etc. Right Do.g's - A debt & tax enslaved country / world of usury. Yes, greed is also a problem. Mind control is the biggie .. The tube is their super weapon that tells people how to think, what to believe, what to wear, what to buy, what to eat and on it goes. Find the ones who own finance, their puppets / front people, (the ones they place at the front to deceive and hide behind) the media and etc. Do the research and keep digging. So much is cooked or lies. It has been that way for so many years now, I don't know if US Citizens or people in general, can recover and really face the true reality of things? How can one fix a Country or World that is flooded daily with dishonesty? Why are so many willing to be so dishonest and lie to people and mislead them on a daily bases? Once I was told that "Almost all we know or have been told is bare faced lies." Where is true honesty? Do they think (media goons and etc) that their true masters will grant them some kind of special treatment down the road when everyone is finally enslaved? I think they got a big surprise coming? Their not going to give up their control over finance, and the controlled Governments know it and fear them. To them, tis the way for the sheep / cattle.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:51 pm 
Bah! Aaron Russo was just a Libertarian, and we all know they're just corporate-loving kooks, right?


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The Silver Certificates started being minted in 1958 as I recall. That was before JFK was in office. JFK was also an insider when he started out his presidency.

I think the Bay of Pigs/Cuban Missile Crisis started some extremely bad blood going.

The only recent president we have had that was not an insider was Reagan. So they got their man Bush in to make sure that still had control.


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I suggested once they use silver since it is more abundant and can't be inflated. It has remained near the same price for years especially relative to gold and only the Hunt's were found out trying to manipulate its price.

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JFK also wanted to do away with the Federal Reserve System and back the dollar with Silver. I still have 3 Two Dollar Silver Certificates issued by his administration the last of those. JFK also wanted to withdraw all 17,000 military advisors from Vietnam and stop that war before it started and he also swore he would destroy the CIA !!!!!!!! Well we all now know how that turned out :evil:
Like Eisenhower said "Beware the military-industrial complex"!!!

On 23rd December 1913 the house of representatives had past the Federal Reserve Act, but it was still having difficulty getting it out of the senate. Most members of congress had gone home for the holidays, but unfortunately the senate had not adjourned sene die (without day) so they were technically still in session. There were only three members still present. On a unanimous consent voice vote the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was passed. No objection was made, possibly because there was no one there to object. .....

It was Woodrow Wilson that sold America to the foreign Bankers who still own it.

http://www.xat.org/xat/history2.html

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

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When I see the words "so watchful" I think of all of the citizen survelliance going on.

Some think the Zionists want Americans to have to live like Israeli's do. A Zionist actually said that a few years ago.


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