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 Post subject: 9/11 SHORT CLIP REVEALS DEMOLTIONS AND CORE DESTRUCTION
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:08 am 
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This clip made my jaw drop. Lots of 911 documentaries and clips, none show the actual flashes occuring 60-75 floors below the impact zone and up close rare stabalized ground level collapse angles.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/744529/9_ ... _revealed/


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Welcome to the board, Godspeed...thanks for registering and for making this post.

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Looking at that again I realized that white smoke is a sign of a thermite/thermate ignition. They were burning the steel supports and we only see a few squibs of smoke where the Thermite caused the concrete to disintegrate and the exhaust gasses were escaping. It didn't happen everywhere, so we don't see smoke coming out everywhere, or at every 30 foot level, which was the length the steel was conveniently cut at, for quick removal from the crime scene. Some of those squibs are 100 feet below when they're happening. There were some triple forked beams that were near the bottom that weighed up to 20,000 tons and probably certain areas needed a little more softening up.

Did you notice that when the spire finally collapsed it fell inwards and not out! Why do you think that was, with everything else being blown outward and the volume of dirt etc.- should have pushed it over outward. Perhaps the thermite at the base was cut on an angle inward down, so the base fell in and not out, like all the other charges every 30 feet, to ensure that it fell inwards. The explosives definitely blew the steel outward as viewed so often and found in other buildings, so there were explosive charges designed to eliminate the concrete ahead, and thermite/thermate cutting charges to cut the steel as it followed, thus creating that vacuum that "Pulled the building down straight into its own footprint.

I think the most telling one was a squib you see coming right out at the corner. Why would it come out at the corner where it would be most reinforced? The story the apologists give was that the windows blew out and air pressure from above was forcing smoke out. Yeah?- but what about the color of the smoke? Or what about the corner one? You can tell the smoke is not coming out of a window and pressure always forces the weakest point to break first, so that rules out the corner ones.

Why would white smoke be coming out of offices where there was no fires, well below the impact spot?

This film does show some interesting close up details for such a short clip. Good find, Godspeed2012.

That name is in reference to the mayans and that god please speed the time up of its arrival? Good name.

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Hey thanx im glad you like the video.


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Many are saying Mini-Nukes may have used in the towers. Some think it may have been some kind of new weapon we don't even know about. As far as thermite not being used,
I think we can only say that if - thermite, has been solidly and rigorously debunked.

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Love to see your data on the Thermite refuting- perhaps a zionist plot again? Sure it wasn't thermate? it is an easy way to cut steel and is not an explosive- rather a cutting method of cutting steel beams- mainbeams and basement beams- too big for explosives. Mini Nukes? Not likely, as they would leave radiation traces.

here's the site for you- http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=107738

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The Zionist Gatekeeper Greg Palast
and His Attack on Professor Jones and 9-11 Truth
By Christopher Bollyn
www.bollyn.com

I met with Professor Jones several times at the BYU campus during the spring of 2006 and visited Professor Thomas Cahill at the University of California at Davis between my visits to Provo. The data that these two professors have gathered corroborate the theory that large amounts of Thermite were used in the demolition of the three towers of the World Trade Center.

Shortly after I wrote a series of articles about the evidence of Thermite at the WTC during the summer of 2006, I was brutally attacked by three undercover cops who broke my right elbow and TASERed me in front of my wife and 8-year-old daughter. I was then maliciously prosecuted for aggravated assault and resisting a police officer. Despite an abundance of evidence that the Hoffman Estates police conspired to assault me before they arrived at my house and the fact that the police had destroyed their videos of the assault, I was found guilty of both charges. As I had been warned about the legal process in America, the side that gets the most evidence excluded wins. So it was.

Three weeks later, Professor Jones was the victim of a trap set for him on the NPR radio affiliate at the University of Utah:

On September 5, Doug Fabrizio, executive producer of RadioWest on the University of Utah's public radio station invited Jones to come on his one-hour program to discuss his 9/11 research.
After interviewing Jones for a brief 20 minutes, Fabrizio said goodbye to Jones and turned the remainder of the hour over to a discussion of conspiracy theories with two Jewish professors, a Robert Goldberg from the University of Utah and Gary Fine from Northwestern.

The first caller was a William Tumpowsky, chairman of the Jewish Community Relations Council and board member of the local Israeli-fund raising organization, the United Jewish Federation. Tumpowsky charged that Jones' was using code language to make anti-Semitic allegations. Goldberg supported this accusation.

Starting from this outrageous allegation, Fabrizio continued the hostile discussion with Goldberg and Fine, with frequent allegations that the now-absent physics professor was nothing more than an anti-Semite indulging in conspiracy fantasies. The most significant evidence brought forth by Jones' research was not even discussed.

Within two days, the authorities at BYU apparently caved to organized Jewish pressure and put Jones on paid leave.

See: "Are Zionists Behind Banning of Truthful 9/11 Scientist?"
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=93189
This fits with most of the zionist writings you and others here post. Palast is another gatekeeper- this time as Israel's bitch. Attack the messenger and his credibility seems to be the standard MO.

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DO.g's ...

I think you misunderstood what I said.

Many are saying Mini-Nukes "may" have been used in the towers. Some think it may have been some kind of new weapon we don't even know about. Just some stuff that others are saying.

I said: As far as thermite "not" being used, I think we can only say that "if" - thermite, has been --> solidly and rigorously debunked. I was not saying it was not used, only that it had to be "solidly and rigorously" debunked, if one is going to claim it happened another way. (Wasn't used).

What about explosives and thermite? Is there enough evidence to show explosions?

If you want to hang onto the thermite thing, go ahead. No one said you had to think otherwise. I was just saying that other people do think otherwise. What difference does it make "what" people have posted in the past? - (Here). Meaning - When it comes to talking about thermite being used in this thread? I'm not a fan of that site. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=107738.

If you look around, you'll find I mentioned those guys and asked something like -- Who are the real truth seekers? The game is - This one is connected to that one and he / she has connections to him / her, so they can't be trusted. Here is a good example: http://planetquo.net/ Who can be trusted? How can anyone know for sure?

Anyway, I've just been reading what others are saying and then looking into it myself. There is so much to go through and the the links lead to more links and so on.
I like to check everything I can. You never know what might turn up!

Links ...
http://www.financialsense.com/editorial ... /0311.html
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/evidence.htm
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm
http://911truthnc.blogspot.com/2006/09/ ... sives.html
http://cms.firehouse.com/content/articl ... 1&id=49750
http://www.halturnershow.com/RadiationH ... InNYC.html
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier3.htm
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier5.htm
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id472.html
http://www.911blogger.com/node/3321
http://www.janes.com/security/internati ... _1_n.shtml
A post about two posts discussing suitcase bombs and radiation products:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread157566/pg1
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1715.cfm
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 02x2483034
http://911research.wtc7.net/papers/trum ... sFinal.htm
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier3.htm
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/why_indeed.html
http://www.911eyewitness.com/truth/inde ... cle&sid=73
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3520610003

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Palast vs. Bollyn. Jesus, where does the bullshit end? How much bullshit is enough? Endless, endless molten pools of it, boiling for weeks under the pile.


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Right you guys are- with all the BS going around, we're swimming in a sea of seething molten crap. What to believe and what not to believe? The spin doctors are at their finest when the going gets tough- and after 6 years of work trying to find the truth, we are no further ahead.

It will take a confession from someone within the cabal to figure this out.

Lots of links and each one is another question mark. Check out johndoeraemi and his articles about disinformation in the truth movement. We're up against the wall of science and facts- where do they meet?

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Grrr! I dont know how you cope, tis all very frustrating when its right infront of your eyes!!

Something (from a link off a link :wink: ) hit home....or you can just call me thick

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If the heat of the metal in the basement of the WTC was hot enough to keep the moulten metal smoldering how comes the firemen were able to walk on the metal above? Why was there metal above etc? Yeah I know just one of many Q's :roll:

Do you guys also reckon that the London bombings are connected? Just I think Mr TB is very weak and could not withstand the accusations whatever! (he couldnt handle it....DOH probably why Gordon Brown is now PM :?


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