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 Post subject: Better late than never?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:55 am 
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http://the-truth-zone.blogspot.com/2007 ... never.html

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/13/104523/93

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 Post subject: Re: Better late than never?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:36 pm 
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Definitely better late than never. Because it's on the record, where it will become part of history. But not as good as four years ago.

Personally, I don't understand why so many of the Generals in question leaned so heavily away from the side of being perceived as a maverick. To the detriment of the security of the United States, it's painfully obvious that there aren't that many Smedley Butlers among the ranks of U.S. Generals anymore. It might be interesting to know why.

But as part of the historical record, this most-recent statement does corroborate the theme articulated independently by other insiders, which is the Khmer Rouge-esque incompetence of today's wannabe viper nest masquerading as a representative government.


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The only way I could construe this to be better late than never is if it leads to charges of war crimes against humanity by those involved.

I wonder. If the Iraq war would have succeeded as the delusional thought it would have, or if it at least showed some promise, would these people be speaking up?

Even if we did "win", this war is a crime against humanity and it was based on outright lies and manipulation.

Not only that. This war in Afghanistan and this entire "war terror" is a crime against humanity. Our own government brought down those towers, thus everything that has happened is based on a lie.

What, isn't it something like 4,000,000 (that's FOUR MILLION), refugees and something along the lines of over 1,000,000 (That's over ONE MILLION), Iraqi deaths?

We have destroyed their infrastructure, covered their land with depleted uranium, caused the suffering and deaths of million, all based on lies, and NOW this man speaks up?

We are witnessing GENOCIDE PERPETRATED BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT SPANNING 3 PRESIDENCYS.

This is what will go down in history for this point in time because the victor always gets to write history and America will not be the victor in this battle that we started due to greed and the desire to expand our empire.

It is too late for these people to come forward. The damage has been done to an extent that it cannot be repaired.

I wonder if these millions that have suffered, and the millions more that will suffer into the future will read this and think, "Better late than never"?

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What I'd like to hear stated is what there is to "win" in Iraq. First it was eliminating WMD, which weren't there and hadn't been since the 1990s. Then it was removing an ally of al-Qaeda, even though there was no tie to al-Qaeda. Then it was about removing a dictator who'd committed atrocities against his own people, though many of those crimes has been exaggerated or fabricated and there were (and remain) far more brutal regimes in other parts of the world. It then became about creating "democracy" in Iraq, and bringing stability to the region. Now, with that last false mission having failed, it's back to fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq even though it isn't much of a presence there.

Why don't people just admit, publicly, that this war is about building PNAC's desired American empire and that we've lost it completely?

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