Neocons seek to justify action against Teheran

Catherine · **Posted:** Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:48 am

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American diplomats have been ordered to compile a dossier detailing Iran's violations of international law that some fear could be used to justify military strikes against the Islamic republic's nuclear programme.

US trains Gulf air forces for war with Iran

Members of the US secretariat in the United Nations were asked earlier this month to begin "searching for things that Iran has done wrong", The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

Some US diplomats believe the exercise — reminiscent of attempts by vice-president Dick Cheney and the former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld to build the case against Saddam Hussein before the Iraq war — will boost calls for military action by neo-conservatives inside and outside the administration.

One diplomat revealed the plans for an Iran dossier to Steven Clemons, a fellow with the New America Foundation, a Washington think-tank, who has previously revealed attempts by Mr Cheney's allies to pressurise President George W Bush into war.

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Guest · **Posted:** Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:55 am

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Bruce Reidel, a former CIA Middle East desk officer, said the neo-conservatives realised their influence would wane rapidly when Mr Bush left office in just over 15 months. "Whatever crazy idea they have to try to transform the Middle East, they have to push now. The real hardline neo-conservatives are getting desperate that the door of history is about to close on them with an epitaph of total failure."

I'm not sure about the "total failure" part, but the theme of there not being a Presidential election in the U.S. in 2008 has come to my attention. Something called Executive Order 51 is one piece of the puzzle. Part of the "explosive" material I'm working on.

Channel Zero · **Posted:** Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:04 am

I see the article mentioned on sick puppy named Norman Podhoretz.

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Opponents of military action were further alarmed last week when it emerged that Norman Podhoretz, one of the godfathers of neo-conservatism, used a 45-minute meeting with Mr Bush at the White House to lobby for the bombing of Iran's nuclear plants.

Mr Podhoretz disclosed that, when he said Mr Bush was just "giving futility its chance" by pursuing diplomacy, the president and his former aide Karl Rove had burst out laughing. "It struck me," Mr Podhoretz added, "that if they really believed that there was a chance for these negotiations and sanctions to work, they would not have laughed. They would have got their backs up and said, 'No, no, it's not futile, there's a very good chance'." He said he believed "Bush is going to hit" Iran before his presidency ends.

Mr Podhoretz is highly influential. His son-in-law is Elliott Abrams, Mr Bush's deputy national security adviser, who is regarded by US officials as a key advocate of bombing Iran. He was found guilty of withholding evidence from Congress over the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980s.

Podhoretz, you first!

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Oh and by the way, Podhoretz sounds like pud hurts. Which would figure, because this guy's got a painful hard-on for war.

rooster · **Posted:** Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:06 am

the wheels to further cement the forthcoming police state in this country are now in place.

conplan 8022 was developed for a reason. for an interesting read google it, it'll send shivers up your spine.

the faulty problem that most neocons don't see is that if an attack by us does occur that irans allies who are part of the iranian oil burse may have a very hostile view. russia, china, india and pakistan are irans signatory allies in the iob.

who in thier right mind thinks that those allies of iran are just gonna sit back and watch as we just march right into9 tehran and take over complete control of nearly all of the worlds oil reserves.

aint going to happen friends. but the bushicons are betting that thier superior military power and allies will permit them to do whatever they want.

they would be wrong.

sad part is that we're gonig to be the ones who suffer the most because of the bullshitthese assholes are propgating.

dori · **Posted:** Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:31 am

Right rooster. They all have bunkers, we don't.

Catherine · **Posted:** Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:46 am

If Bush bombs Iran, it will ignite World War 3, and that's exactly what the neocons have been aiming for all along. We shouldn't be arguing who is going to be the next president...he's already in the White House, scratching his hairy little testicles at this very moment. :evil:

rooster · **Posted:** Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:23 am

ahhhh yes cath, you've picked up quite shrewedly on what more and more people are beginning to suspect........the fact that the current occupant in the blackhouse actually has a plan on being the NEXT president.

election 08!!!!! surely you jest!

"this nation is under severe threat from all of the terrorist organizations on the face of the planet! so....it is therefore that i regretfully have made the decision under the power given me via exercutive order blah blah blah which states that due to current security threat to the american people that i will remain as your president until the current terror crisis is over."

i'm betting that his final speech before he takes over as a declared dictator will sound somewhat like the above.

the bombing campaign vs iran will be the precursor to the absolute power grab the bushicons have been dreaming of since bush was sworn in in 2000. the thing they don't realize though is that they have created more enemies over the face of the earth than they truely realize. our enemies are growing in number day by day and are in secret alliances that will show thier hand when the bushicons are arrogant enough to make the the ultimate stupid move they are counting on.

we will be attacked in a devastating manner the likes of which will may well utterly destroy us as a nation. our time as the worlds top superpower will come to a screeching halt.

the bushicons are betting that'll never happen. sad part is we are the currency they are using to make the fatal wager.

they will lose this bet bigtime.

Purple Tang · **Posted:** Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:35 am

Channel Zero wrote:

I see the article mentioned on sick puppy named Norman Podhoretz.

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Opponents of military action were further alarmed last week when it emerged that Norman Podhoretz, one of the godfathers of neo-conservatism, used a 45-minute meeting with Mr Bush at the White House to lobby for the bombing of Iran's nuclear plants.

Mr Podhoretz disclosed that, when he said Mr Bush was just "giving futility its chance" by pursuing diplomacy, the president and his former aide Karl Rove had burst out laughing. "It struck me," Mr Podhoretz added, "that if they really believed that there was a chance for these negotiations and sanctions to work, they would not have laughed. They would have got their backs up and said, 'No, no, it's not futile, there's a very good chance'." He said he believed "Bush is going to hit" Iran before his presidency ends.

Mr Podhoretz is highly influential. His son-in-law is Elliott Abrams, Mr Bush's deputy national security adviser, who is regarded by US officials as a key advocate of bombing Iran. He was found guilty of withholding evidence from Congress over the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980s.

Podhoretz, you first!

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Oh and by the way, Podhoretz sounds like pud hurts. Which would figure, because this guy's got a painful hard-on for war.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _Podhoretz

From Wikepedia:
Podhoretz has been and continues to be lavish in his praise of the current president of the United States: "George W. Bush (is) a man who knows evil when he sees it and who has demonstrated an unfailingly courageous willingness to endure vilification and contumely in setting his face against it." He goes on to claim that Bush has been "battered more mercilessly and with less justification than any other in living memory."[

shoeless · **Posted:** Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:53 pm

Purple Tang wrote:

He goes on to claim that Bush has been "battered..."

Sure Bush has been battered. He's just lucky he hasn't been deep fried yet.

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