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 Post subject: Quotes for December 7......
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:13 pm 
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Quotes for December 7......

Number One Best Liberal Quote of the Day: On Infamy "December 7, 1941, a date that will live in infamy." — Franklin Delano Roosevelt in a speech to Congress asking for a formal declaration of war against the Empire of Japan

Best Liberal Quote of the Day: On Privacy "The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom." — William O. Douglas

Stupidest and/or Scariest Quote from the Right for the Day: On Their Cold Dead Hands
"Question: How do you explain the low crime rates in democratic societies with strong firearms regulations?

Tanya Metaksa: The same way I would explain low crime rates in other countries which have less firearm restrictions that the countries you are talking about, and less restrictions that the high crime parts of the U.S.—there is no correlation between gun laws and crime rates, one way or the other, for the most part. As noted though, where gun laws respect the right to self-protection, crime rates are much lower.

Nancy Kearney: To paraphrase many of the questions tonight: why do we need assault weapons?

Tanya Metaksa: "Need" is something for each individual to decide for him or herself. The issue is not "need"—certainly not in a free society where liberty is paramount. The issue is rights. If you mean to ask what uses there are for various kinds of firearms, that's another matter. Ask if that is your direction."
— Tanya Metaksa, Executive Director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action in a "Time online" interview. Time's Nancy Kearney was the moderator, 5-30-95. hoboes.com.

Dumbest Thing Said for the Day: From Politics "If I seem unduly clear to you, you must have misunderstood what I said." — Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman




Liberal Quotes of the Day taken from The Best Liberal Quotes Ever: Why the Left Is Right Compiled by William P. Martin ©2004

Quotes from the Right of the Day taken from Take Them at Their Words: Startling, Amusing and Baffling Quotations from the GOP and Their Friends, 1994-2004 Compiled by Bruce J. Miller with Diana Maio ©2004

Dumbest Thing Said for the Day taken from 1001 Dumbest Things Ever Said Edited by Steven D. Price ©2004

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 Post subject: December 7, 1941 / September 11, 2001
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:20 pm 
December 7, 1941 / September 11, 2001

David Ray Griffin, in The New Pearl Harbor wrote:
The attacks of 9/11 have often been compared with the attacks on Pearl Harbor. Investigative reporter James Bamford, for example, has written about President Bush's behavior "in the middle of a modern-day Pearl Harbor."1 CBS News reported that the president himself, before going to bed on 9/11, wrote in his diary: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today."2

This comparison has often been made for the sake of arguing that the American response to 9/11 should be similar to the American response to Pearl Harbor. Just after the president's address to the nation on September 11, 2001, Henry Kissinger posted an online article in which he said: "The government should be charged with a systematic response that, one hopes, will end the way that the attack on Pearl Harbor ended -- with the destruction of the system that is responsible for it."3 An editorial in Time magazine that appeared right after the attacks urged: "For once, let's have no fatuous rhetoric about 'healing.' . . . A day cannot live in infamy without the nourishment of rage. Let's have rage. What's needed is a unified, unifying Pearl Harbor sort of purple American fury."4

Some of the comparisons have pointed out that the attacks of 9/11 did indeed evoke a response, calling for the use of US military power, similar to that produced by Pearl Harbor. Quoting a prediction made in 2000 by soon-to-be top officials in the Bush administration that the changes they desired would be difficult unless "a new Pearl Harbor" occurred,5 Australian journalist John Pilger wrote: "The attacks of 11 September 2001 provided the 'new Pearl Harbor.'"6 A member of the US Army's Institute for Strategic Studies reported that after 9/11, "Public support for military action is at levels that parallel the public reaction after the attack at Pearl Harbor."7


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1 James Bamford, Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency (New York: Anchor Books, 2002), 633.

2 Washington Post, January 27, 2002.

3 Henry Kissinger, "Destroy the Network," Washington Post, September 11, 2001 (washingtonpost.com), quoted in Thierry Meyssan, 9/11: The Big Lie (London: Carnot, 2002), 65.

4 Lance Morrow, "The Case for Rage and Retribution," Time, September 11, 2001.

5 The Project for the New American Century, Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century (www.newamericancentury.org), 51.

6 John Pilger, New Statesman, December 12, 2002.

7 Leonard Wong, Institute of Strategic Studies, Defeating Terrorism: Strategic Issues Analysis, "Maintaining Public Support for Military Operations" (http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usassi/public.pdf), quoted in 9/11: The Big Lie, 127.


Contrary to Mr. Kissinger's statement, the visible government's response to the Pearl Harbor attack failed miserably in "the destruction of the system that [was] responsible for it." Indeed, the diseased system of utterly misdirected "rage" and big-government U.S. military spending is as healthy as ever.

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Peter Phillips/Commondreams wrote:
In September 2000, PNAC produced a 76-page report entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century." The report, similar to the 1992 Defense Policy Guidance report, called for the protection of the American Homeland, the ability to wage simultaneous theater wars, perform global constabulary roles, and the control of space and cyberspace. It claimed that the 1990s were a decade of defense neglect and that the US must increase military spending to preserve American geopolitical leadership as the world's superpower. The report also recognized that: "the process of transformation is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event such as a new Pearl Harbor." The events of September 11, 2001 presented exactly the catastrophe that the authors of Rebuilding America's Defenses theorized were needed to accelerate a global dominance agenda. The resulting permanent war on terror has led to massive government defense spending, the invasions of two countries, and the threatening of three others, and the rapid acceleration of the neo-conservative plans for military control of the world. [emphasis added]


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Peter Phillips is a Professor of Sociology at Sonoma State University and director of Project Censored, a media research organization. A more in-depth review of the global dominance group's agenda and a list of the 200 advocates see: http://www.projectcensored.org/download ... _Group.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: December 7, 1941 / September 11, 2001
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:23 am 
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CBS News reported that the president himself, before going to bed on 9/11, wrote in his diary: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today."


A few thoughts on this sentence:
1. This semi-functional illiterate is not capable of reading much less writing. If this appears in any diary, it was put there by handlers not the shrub himself.
2. While 9/11 was terrible it was an attack designed for terror not the destruction of military strength. It was successful in souring the U.S. economy to the point where recovery has yet to begin, mainly because the war cabal profits are so high there is no recognition of the devastation our economy and the hardships endured by the average citizen.
3. If the attacks were the "Pearl Harbor" of the 21st century, Bush can in no way be considered the FDR of the 21st century. Based on the record, he is much closer to Tojo or Hitler than FDR.

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