It is currently Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:38 am

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Mamma Mia Anti-War Movement- the Cat's blog
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:09 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
Thought Catherine would like this sites name- The Cat's dream-
http://www.thecatsdream.com/blog/2007/0 ... vement.htm

Has a great article about our troops inaction again and the problem with the anti-war movements, especially in not recognizing the seriousness of the war in Afghanistan- another unjust illegal war, despite whatever excuses that it is valid that may be raised. It's an invasion by NATO, a defensive organization that the US finds much more compliant than the UN.

Quote:
I have sympathy and compassion for all the suffering victims of this madness, including those veterans who come back home with their lives destroyed. But I am disgusted by what is called the anti-war movement’s double standards. My sympathy, solidarity and compassion go first of all to the Iraqi and Afghan children, women and innocent human beings whose lives have been tortured, maimed, killed, destroyed by those mass murderers, “our troops”

- I give all my sympathy to the Iraqi and Afghan resistance movements. They are fighting for their land in their land and that’s all we need to know. If we have to use an abused word, they are the real heroes. Not those mass murderers who fly their fat asses on those expensive death toys and drop tons of bombs upon homes, mosques, schools and hospitals. If they want my sympathy, they need first to get home and get home now. They don’t need their mummy’s permission to do that. They are adults with a conscience. They just need to use it and refuse to keep the butchery going. The anti-war movement’s hyper protective attitude toward “our troops” is immoral and counterproductive.

- This “anti-war movement” is a disgrace.


1 million dead Iraqi's. That's quite an accomplishment.

Check out the articles from Cindy Sheehan and Amy Goodman. Make sure you read the comments for the cat at the bottom. A different stance for what out troops really stand for and what supporting the troops really means? Are they mass murderers for going against their Constitutional obligations? Does that mean you're supporting mass murderers if you have a yellow ribbon on your car?????

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Last edited by DO.g's on Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:49 am 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 29, 2004 11:46 pm
Posts: 14444
Location: NC
Image

_________________
Image

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime."
Honore de Balzac

"Democrats work to help people who need help.
That other party, they work for people who don't need help.
That's all there is to it."

~Harry S. Truman


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:36 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
I like this quote from Tariq Ali-
Quote:
Is it a perfect resistance? No. How could a resistance be pretty when the occupation is so brutal and ugly. The senseless violence inflicted upon the Iraqi people by the occupation results in a violent response. It was no different when the Algerians fought the French to a standstill in the early Sixties of the last century. When a leader of the Algerian resistance was asked why they often bombed cafes and killed civilians, he replied: 'Give us planes and helicopters and then we will only target French troops.' - Tariq Ali


Latest blog from the cat-

http://www.thecatsdream.com/blog/index.htm

Quote:
Why is Antiwar.com hiding the Iraq Genocide?
Dear Margaret Griffis,
AntiWar.com

I hope you’re well.

I read on Antiwar.com that you edit the website’s page Casualties in Iraq - The Human Cost of Occupation

While that page includes a big Iraq Body Count’s banner and other IBC references, I could not find any mention of:

the studies conducted by the world leaders in the field of epidemiology and published as peer-reviewed scientific papers in the world's leading medical journal, the Lancet;
the recently published ORB poll suggesting a total of 1,220,580 deaths as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (ie as a result of violence rather than a natural death such as old age)
The British media watchdog Media Lens recently wrote:

IBC only collects records of violent civilian deaths reported by two different (mainly Western) media sources operating in Iraq. Epidemiologists report that this type of study typically captures around 5 per cent of deaths during high levels of violence, such as exists in Iraq. By contrast, the Lancet studies provide figures for all deaths - violent and non-violent, civilian and military, reported and unreported. [The Media Ignore Credible Poll Revealing 1.2 Million Violent Deaths In Iraq, SEPTEMBER 18, 2007 ]
In its latest Alert, Media Lens wrote:

The mainstream media are continuing to use figures provided by the website Iraq Body Count (IBC) to sell the public a number for total post-invasion deaths of Iraqis that is perhaps 5-10% of the true death toll. [MEDIA ALERT: IRAQ BODY COUNT: “A VERY MISLEADING EXERCISE”, October 3, 2007]
Gilbert Burnham, MD and Professor of International Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Les Roberts, Associate Professor at the Columbia Mailman School of Public Health recently wrote:

Not wanting to think about civilian deaths in Iraq has become almost universal. The average American believed approximately 9,900 Iraqis had died as a result of the war according to a February 2007 AP poll. Unfortunately, recent evidence suggests that things in Iraq may be one-hundred times worse than Americans realize. (...) There are now two polls and three scientific surveys all suggesting the official figures and media-based estimates in Iraq have missed 70-95% of all deaths. The evidence suggests that the extent of under-reporting by the media is only increasing with time. [Ignorance of Iraqi death toll no longer an option, Les Roberts and Gilbert Burnham]
Patrick McElwee and Robert Naiman of Just Foreign Policy recently wrote:

The best estimate indicates that more than a million Iraqis have been killed as a result of the invasion and occupation. It is reasonable to suppose that if politicians and news media in the United States were forced to confront this reality, pressure for the end of the war would increase dramatically, and cavalier discussions of new military actions in Iran and Pakistan would be less likely. [Is the U.S. Responsible for a Million Iraqi Deaths?, Patrick McElwee and Robert Naiman]
In April 2006 I wrote Antiwar.com on the same issue but I didn’t received any reply.
Looks like Iraq Body Count is lying about deaths in Iraq and is part of the coverup of not just Iraqi deaths, but also American deaths as well. Bought and paid for shills again.

When will Americans wake up to the truth about their country and its genocides? :roll: :shock: :x :evil: Time to wake up from the somnambulance and realize they are sleepwalking to the end of the world, or at least their tiny little privileged world.

Just like the republic they emulated. Perhaps a return to crucifixion would bring this to light.

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:18 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
Here's todays blog report from the cat's blog- She's going to continue after those lying bastards at IBC and anti-war. Looks more and more we have some peace gatekeepers who need to be exposed. Soon they will be forced to change their policies and say they were just re-formatting anyway. :roll: Oh right, they're in the midst of it now. :lol: Flip/flop/flip/flop.

This story is getting more interesting every day.

http://www.thecatsdream.com/blog/index.htm
Quote:
Laypersons and scientists alike will have to decide who to believe, 1.5 million -2.0 million million post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths (according to the data from world’s top medical epidemiologists, the UN Population Division, the United nations Children’s Fund, the World Health Organization and the top UK polling and market analysis company ORB) VERSUS 75,000-81,000 violent deaths (as reported Iraq Body Count, Anti-war.com and lying, racist, war-mongering, holocaust-ignoring and holocaust-denying extreme right-wing, Bush-ite mainstream media and politicians).

Of course the carnage is even worse than this. It is estimated that the total excess deaths in the Bush I and Bush II Asian Wars (in Occupied Iraq and Occupied Afghanistan and including the US-backed Israeli wars and occupations in Lebanon, Syria and Palestine in the last several decades) amount to 8 million (see: “United State Terrorism. 8 million Deaths & media Holocaust Denial”: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17139/42/ ).
The US Alliance Occupier countries are STILL involved in both active genocide and passive genocide in the Occupied Palestinian, Iraqi and Afghan Territories - see the recently published “Lies, Deep Fries & Statistics” (editor. Robyn Williams, ABC Books, Sydney 2007: http://shop.abc.net.au/browse/product.a ... tid=164365 ; and especially “Australian Complicity in Iraq Mass Mortality” by Dr Gideon Polya, also found at: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ockham ... 445960.htm ) and “Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950” (G.M. Polya, Melbourne, 2007): http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com/ and http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/ ).

The Bush Asian Holocaust death toll of 8 million exceeds that of the Jewish Holocaust, the WW2 Nazi German-inflicted Jewish Genocide (6 million deaths, 5 million murdered and 1 million dying from deprivation) and that of the largely un-reported, “forgotten”, man-made, British-inflicted Bengali Holocaust (Bengal Famine, Bengali Genocide) of World War 2 British India (4 million excess deaths) (see: (see “Global avoidable mortality”: http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/ ; “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History” (G.M. Polya, Melbourne, 1998): http://janeaustenand.blogspot.com/ and “Body Count”: http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com/ ; Mason, C. (2000), A Short History of Asia. Stone Age to 2000AD (Macmillan, London); Gilbert, M. (1969), Jewish History Atlas (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, London); Gilbert, M. (1982), Atlas of the Holocaust (Michael Joseph, London).

There are 300 million Arab Semites in the World and a total of 1.5 billion Muslims whose core culture is Semitic-origin Islam. The Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians , Iraqis and Afghans subject to war and occupation by US state terrorism (USST), US-Israeli state terrorism (USIST) and Israeli State Terrorism (IST) in the Bush Wars are ethnically and /or culturally SEMITIC.

Denial of the World War 2 Jewish Holocaust (6 million victims, including 1 million deaths from deprivation) are reasonably accused of anti-Jewish anti-Semitic Holocaust that is punished by 10 years in prison in Austria and lengthy custodial sentences in some other European countries. Steadfast Mainstream media and politician IGNORING of authoritative estimates of horrendous excess deaths in the Iraqi Holocaust (3.9 million excess deaths since 1990, 2 million excess deaths since 2003) can be reasonably described as anti-Arab anti-Semitic Holocaust Denial.

We are obliged to inform everyone we can of these horrendous abuses of Humanity.

Dr Gideon Polya, Melbourne, Australia


Silence is complicity.

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:15 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 29, 2004 11:46 pm
Posts: 14444
Location: NC
Wouldn't this make a good topic for call-in discussion on CPAN'S WASHINGTON MORNING? :evil:

_________________
Image

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime."
Honore de Balzac

"Democrats work to help people who need help.
That other party, they work for people who don't need help.
That's all there is to it."

~Harry S. Truman


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:09 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
Like to go over this site occasionally- good writing. Found this from the person who wrote the http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/ site-

Quote:
Dr Gideon Polya said...
The carnage from the post-1990 Bush Wars in Iraq totals3.9million post-1990 Iraqi excess deaths due to US war, sanctions and occupation out of an average 1990-2007 Iraq population of about 24 million (This total is made up of 0.2 million Bush I Gulf War deaths + 1.7 million Bush I, Clinton I and Bush II Sanctions War excess deaths + 2 million Bush II 2003-2007 Iraq War post-invasion violent and non-violent excess deaths (see MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17066/42/ and http://open.newmatilda.com/crosswire/?p=133 ).

Just compare this continuing atrocity with the Nazi German Jewish Holocaust – 5 million killed, 1 million excess deaths from starvation and deprivation i.e. about 6 million excess deaths out of a Jewish population in Nazi Europe of about 9 million and a total world Jewish population at the time of about 15 million (see: . Gilbert, M. (1969), Jewish History Atlas (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, London) and Gilbert, M. (1982), Atlas of the Holocaust (Michael Joseph, London)).

The nearly 4 million US-inflicted post-1990 Iraqi excess deaths is commensurate with those of the Jewish Holocaust, the WW2 Nazi German-inflicted Jewish Genocide (6 million deaths) and of the largely UN-REPORTED, “forgotten”, man-made, British-inflicted Bengali Holocaust (Bengal Famine, Bengali Genocide) of WW2 British India (4 million deaths) (see “The Forgotten Holocaust – the 1943/44 Bengal Famine”: http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/ and “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History”: http://janeaustenand.blogspot.com/ ).

The Iraqis are mostly SEMITES from the HEARTLAND of a 7,000 year-old SEMITIC culture at the core of GLOBAL civilization. What we are seeing is anti-Semitic, Bush-ite UK-US-Australian-US Alliance Holocaust Commission, Genocide Commission, Holocaust Denial and Genocide Denial.

This continuing atrocity of anti-Semitic, Bush-ite Anglo-American Holocaust Commission and Holocaust Denial demands comprehensive International and Intranational Sanctions and Boycotts against the individuals, corporations and countries complicit in this horrendous, on-going crime against Humanity.

Dr Gideon Polya
Macleod, Melbourne, Australia
...and the deathbeat goes on and on and on.....

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:25 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:37 pm
Posts: 1646
Location: Denver
As long as the voting machines are controlled for the desired outcome and the media is complicit, nothing substantial will likely change.

The real problem in my opinion is the puppeteers of the Bush/Cheney warlords. We don't even know many of their names. Most people don't know they exist.

They win as long as most people are somewhat happy and content. And the Fed keeps printing their money with some substantive value to it.

_________________
"If the people allow private banks to control their currency the banks and corporations will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:45 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
Quote:
They win as long as most people are somewhat happy and content. And the Fed keeps printing their money with some substantive value to it.
Ah yes, that nice comfortable inflated glove seat we all assume we own. Mmmmmm, just luxuriate in its potential.

The peace movement is in delay mode. It's old and needs a nap.

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: AN OLD ZIONIST DREAM- THE PARTITION OF IRAQ
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:40 pm 
Offline
SuperMember!
SuperMember!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:19 pm
Posts: 2533
FROM THE CATS BLOG, Sept 27 07-

Quote:
An old Zionist dream: the partition of Iraq
By Gabriele Zamparini

Finally the Imperial Senate calls for Iraq's partition.

US lawmakers voted Wednesday to split Iraq into a loose federation of sectarian-based regions and urged President George W Bush to press Iraqi leaders to agree.
The proposal came from Senator Joseph Biden, the smart-ass who heads the chamber's foreign relations committee and is running for the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nomination.

A few months ago, Sen. Biden, interviewed by Shalom TV, an American mainstream Jewish cable television network, called Israel "the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East". "I am a Zionist," stated Senator Biden. "You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist."

We know the Israel Lobby is not a very convincing thesis, at least for Noam Chomsky. So, let’s talk about coincidences.

In 1982, Israel Shahak, a professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and chairman of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, wrote:
.............<snip>............
Israel Shahak’s The Zionist Plan for the Middle East is based on Oded Yinon's A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties, an essay originally appeared in Hebrew in KIVUNIM (Directions), A Journal for Judaism and Zionism; Issue No, 14--Winter, 5742, February 1982, Editor: Yoram Beck. Editorial Committee: Eli Eyal, Yoram Beck, Amnon Hadari, Yohanan Manor, Elieser Schweid. Published by the Department of Publicity/The World Zionist Organization, Jerusalem.

Here two passages from Oded Yinon’s A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties:
...........<snip>...........
Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization (…)
Just coincidences, of course...
Make sure to link the Chomsky quote too. Interesting for what's there and what isn't as he chooses omissions. Guess one would have to read the M-W article to understand the true context of this.

_________________
Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind

People don't choose to be dishonest
the choice chooses them

Now I know how Kusinich feels.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Blue Moon by Trent © 2007
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group