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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:13 pm 
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THE CHICKENHAWK DATABASE

This is an excellent resource for information about those in our government and in the media who are willing to kill, but not to serve. :twisted:

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Did not check much but are there Liberals on there also? I am sure there are many, many that elected not to serve in the military during the Vietnam war also. In fact if memorary serves me I think Clinton was one also.

Chickenhawks on both sides. But my discreption of one is "Someone who is physically able to serve the country in time of war and does not."

But I also believe in the draft.


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generally speaking... chickenhawks are those that favor the war now but didn't bother to serve when it was their turn... those on the left that oppose the war but didn't serve, can't be hawks...

instead, they'd just be... chicken...

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LOL I like that.


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Stripey wrote-
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those on the left that oppose the war but didn't serve, can't be hawks...

instead, they'd just be... chicken...


Perhaps not chicken, just smart!

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DO.g's wrote:
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those on the left that oppose the war but didn't serve, can't be hawks...

instead, they'd just be... chicken...


Perhaps not chicken, just smart!


:evil: Certainly you aren't saying that those that chose to serve aren't smart... so I won't rip you a new one for it now... but... flexes claws... :evil:

We're speaking of human feathered creatures... so in my opinion, the following applies:

Chickenhawks have already been defined. Hawks are those that support the war AND served when it was their turn. Chickens are those that don't support the war now and didn't serve when it was their turn. Doves are those that don't support the war now but served when it was their turn to do so. And then, there are the posers. Peacocks I call them... these cretins are chickenhawks but CLAIM they served, usually in combat, but are easily tripped up when asked questions about their service... I despise peacocks even more than I despise chickenhawks... and as everyone knows... I really really really despise chickenhawks.

And since women have been allowed to serve in the military for decades, all those labels are gender free...

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Looks like the database is gone. This website mentions what has become of it.

Here's another large list, though.

List of current presidential candidates and their military experience.
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DEMOCRATS

Joe Biden

Military experience? No.

Details: During the Vietnam War, Biden got a draft notice but flunked the physical due to asthma, according to a 1987 Washington Post profile.

Hillary Clinton

Military experience? No.

Details: Clinton wasn’t subject to the draft in Vietnam because she is a woman. She has said that she tried to sign up for the Marines in 1975 and was told she was too old (at 27) and her eyesight was too poor.

Chris Dodd

Military experience? Yes.

Details: In 1969, Dodd enlisted in the Army National Guard. He later served in the U.S. Army Reserves, for a total of six years of military service.

John Edwards

Military experience? No.

Details: Edwards, born June 10, 1953, was still in high school at the height of the Vietnam draft. He later had a draft number that was never called, according to the Associated Press.

Mike Gravel

Military experience? Yes.

Details: Gravel served in the U.S. Army’s Counter Intelligence Corps from 1951 to 1954. He was based in Berlin.

Dennis Kucinich

Military experience? No.

Details: Kucinich had a medical exemption for the Vietnam draft.

Barack Obama

Military experience? No.

Details: Obama, born Aug. 4, 1961, was too young to be drafted in Vietnam.

Bill Richardson

Military experience? No.

Details: Richardson received student and medical classifications during the Vietnam draft and was never called.

REPUBLICANS

Rudy Giuliani

Military experience? No.

Details: During Vietnam, Giuliani received draft deferments because he was in law school, and later received an occupational deferment. During the times he was draft eligible, he was not called.

Mike Huckabee

Military experience? No.

Details: Huckabee, born Aug. 24, 1955, was too young to be drafted during the Vietnam War.

Duncan Hunter

Military experience? Yes.

Details: Hunter served as an Army paratrooper and Ranger from 1969 to 1971 and served in Vietnam during the war. His son, a Marine, has completed tours of duty in Iraq and was recently deployed to Afghanistan.

John McCain

Military experience? Yes.

Details: McCain was in the Navy for more than 20 years. During Vietnam, he was held as a prisoner of war for five and a half years; at times he was tortured. He received awards that include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. McCain also has two sons in the military; one was deployed to Iraq with the Marines and the other is at the U.S. Naval Academy.

Ron Paul

Military experience? Yes.

Details: Served as a medical doctor in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1965 in San Antonio, Texas, and in the U.S. Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968.

Mitt Romney

Military experience? No.

Details: During Vietnam, Romney received a draft deferment while doing Mormon missionary work. He was eligible for the draft later but was not selected.

Fred Thompson

Military experience? No.

Details: Thompson had a wife and child during the Vietnam War and received deferments.

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