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 Post subject: BUSH CONSIDERED SCRAPPING FIRST AMENDMENT
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:18 pm 
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BUSH ADMIN CONSIDERED SCRAPPING FIRST AMENDMENT!

In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the Justice Department secretly gave the green light for the U.S. military to attack apartment buildings and office complexes inside the United States, deploy high-tech surveillance against U.S. citizens and potentially suspend First Amendment freedom-of-the-press rights in order to combat the terror threat, according to a memo released Monday.

Many of the actions discussed in the Oct. 23, 2001, memo to then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's chief lawyer, William Haynes, were never actually taken.

But the memo from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel—along with others made public for the first time Monday—illustrates with new details the extraordinary post-9/11 powers asserted by Bush administration lawyers. Those assertions ultimately led to such controversial policies as allowing the waterboarding of terror suspects and permitting warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens—steps that remain the subject of ongoing investigations by Congress and the Justice Department. The memo was co-written by John Yoo, at the time a deputy attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel. Yoo, now a professor at the Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, has emerged as one of the central figures in those ongoing investigations.

In perhaps the most surprising assertion, the Oct. 23, 2001, memo suggested the president could even suspend press freedoms if he concluded it was necessary to wage the war on terror. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in the memo entitled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activity Within the United States."


ARE WE SURPRISED? NOT! :evil:

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It doesn't surprise me, but it does piss me off. Though, I would like to think if they had actually tried to do this people would have actually got off their asses and stopped the insanity of the Bush administration.

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lefty wrote:
It doesn't surprise me, but it does piss me off. Though, I would like to think if they had actually tried to do this people would have actually got off their asses and stopped the insanity of the Bush administration.


We waited in vain for eight long years. It was eight long years "priming the pump" politics, so there was never a significant enough minority to stop the insanity. As long as people had their iPods and American Idol, they couldn't be bothered by true reality. We truly stand the precipice of "Bread and Circuses" that the Roman Empire saw before collapse.

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Actually, I think the Repubs thought they'd win with McCain in 2008, and then win the Congress back in 2010. Then they'd carry on with their agenda of shredding the Constitution, line by line. It's not so farfetched to consider that they're still planning and plotting with Dick Cheney and all the other disgruntled Repubs who so underestimated just about everything concerning the 2008 voter turnout.

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Newly released secret memos of the Bush Administration include more evidence that notorious Berkeley law professor John Yoo should be disbarred. Two of the memos, written in January by Bush appointee, Steven Bradbury, a successor of Yoo's in the Justice Department, strongly repudiate Yoo's work. It was the second known repudiation of Yoo by a conservative legal scholar within Bush administration.

The memos released by the Obama administration yesterday also include opinions written by Yoo, okaying warrantless wiretaps and the use of the US military against targets inside the United States. Yoo also authored the previously disclosed "Torture Memos," which authorized CIA and military interrogators to torture prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, and elsewhere.

The Justice Deparmtent's Office of Professional Responsibility is finishing an internal investigation of Yoo and is expected to recommend disbarrment proceedings against him and other department lawyers who advocated that Bush be allowed to do essentialy whatever he wanted in the so-called "War on Terror." Bush then used the memos to justify his actions. Yoo is a tenured professor at Berkeley, who took a leave of absence to work for the Bush Justice Department from 2001 to 2003. Yoo has his law license from the state of Pennsylvania. If he's disbarred, it will further pressure UC Berkeley to fire him.


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Would you agree with me that John Yoo could very well be a domestic "terrorist" who has a real goal of ultimately having a small role to play in the destruction the US Constitution? What's his background, anyway? Does he have an ancestral itch to scratch? Without the BIG C, we're just another little country with a lot of weapons..and a few "leaders" with big egos and even bigger greed.

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