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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:39 pm 
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Hello Chris,

Thank you for your comments on the article below.

I thought there was a possiblity that the English writings near the credits at the end of the piece may have been intentional. To have been provided access to this material/photos I would think someone speaking English may been in technical assistance. IF this was a black psychological effort to inflame Americans or, as you point out, demoralize Americans, it is quite effective. If so, the misspells were intentional to MAKE it look like it was the work of the resistance or those sympathetic to them. It could also be used for a reverse effect, ei, to irritate Americans, either against their own government controlled media for hiding such photos for over a year as in the Abu Ghraib matter. This piece was completed in 2004.

Here is a follow on piece that was posted on the site today. In this instance there is also a translation with many typo's. The consequences of an independent investigation as to the identification of the remains in this piece could be catastrophic.
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id403.html

Some of the feedback I have received on this material is similar to your own with respect to the 'music' and the repetitive throb of same. I have watched it a number of times and come away with feelings such as you decribe every time.

Bests,
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> --- walter storch wrote:
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> Comment?
> ******************************************************
> Hi Walter,
> I'm copying John McCarthy on these comments - he
> seemed to be inviting feedback.
>
> Very effective video. I think it was produced by
> Iraqis or other Arabs, because of misspellings in the
> English captions - this was not produced by a native
> English speaker. It shows a level of technical, and
> more importantly, psychological sophistication which
> is remarkable. They don't show ANY of the equally grim
> photos of Iraqi dead civilians - only photos of
> Americans. VERY effective tool for demoralizing our
> troops and any potential recruits. This is aimed not
> at the liberal war-haters in America, who would be
> more moved by the thousands of even gorier pictures of
> dead Iraqi babies, but is aimed at the essentially
> selfish right-wing Republican gung-ho faction, who
> shield themselves or are willingly shielded from
> seeing the consequences of their warlust. THEY care
> nothing about Iraqi babies, but they DO care about
> their own sons and daughters. This video will hit
> those people in the gut. And it also portrays their
> idol, Bush, as laughing, joking, and having fun, while
> their children suffer and bleed in Iraq. Very
> effective. And also, it will be effective for creating
> contempt in the Arab street for the vaunted "power" of
> the US military. I'm sure this video is being sold
> from Cairo to Islamabad.
>
> The "music" track John McCarthy refers to is
> technologically basic - just a long repetitive dirge
> in Arabic, with no synchronization with the images,
> (except for a few video clips of Bush) but which, by
> the end of the video, keeps on resonating in the
> brain. For about 30 minutes afterwards it kept running
> through my head. In its simplicity, that was also a
> very, very effective tactic. And the juxtaposition of
> 30 minutes of mournful, repetitive Arabic chanting
> with photos of US defeat instils a feeling of
> hopelessness - the endless chanting is determined and
> relentless, evoking the relentlessness of the
> resistance to occupation - quite demoralizing. As I
> said, the producers are masters of psychology.
>
> Most intriguing question: Where did they get hold of
> these photos? Some of them have captions, such as
> GettyImages, but not all. I believe someone with
> journalistic connections has assisted the producers to
> get hold of these images - maybe Agence France Presse?
> Maybe someone associated with Michael Moore? (It has
> his feel. Or maybe they just watched Fahrenheit 9-11
> and copied some of Moore's techniques.) Or maybe
> journalistic dissidents here at home. (Many US
> journalists are prevented from telling the truth by
> their editors, who are beholden to the mega-corporate
> and Jewish ownership of their media.)
>
> It leads me to wonder if there are not other videos we
> have not seen, equally sophisticated, presenting
> images of Iraqi suffering, and designed to enrage and
> motivate the jihadis to offer up their lives to
> destroy the Evil Empire and all its legions? I would
> be surprised if such videos did not exist, and I would
> be most interested to view a sample.
>
> Regards,
> Chris.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:15 pm 
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http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id404.html

This update is in three parts for ease of downloading due to the amount of information contained.

Bests,
John

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