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 Post subject: What is the real purpose of the police and military?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:30 pm 
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To serve and protect? Or to service and maintain?

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Police Taser Anti-War Protesters in Pittsburgh

In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania dozens of anti-war demonstrators attempted to shut down a military recruiting center on Saturday. Two protesters were hospitalized after suffering injuries at the hands of the police. Officers shot one woman with a Taser stun gun as she was lying on the street. Pittsburgh Indymedia captured the scene on tape. Another woman -- who was 68 years old -- was bit in the thigh by a police dog. At least five protesters were arrested. The police defended the level of force used. A spokesperson said, "When you're fighting with police officers, we're allowed to use the force necessary to effect an arrest, up to and including Taser."

SWAT Teams Raid Utah Rave; 60 Arrested

Police officers in Utah are also coming under criticism for using excessive force. On Saturday dozens of armed officers dressed in military fatigues raided a peaceful rave in Spanish Fork Canyon. 60 people were arrested. Attendees of the party reported incidents of police brutality and the unnecessary use of tear gas. Police defended the raid by citing the confiscation of drugs and drug paraphanelia at the rave.



This is a sterling example of their attitude. Victor Frankl stated after his experience in the concentration camps, that you can strip a man of his dignity, civility and shame, but you can never take away his attitude. What is left at the end of this quote, states that we are not allowed to assemble to protest for peace. They see it as "Fighting with the Police" and give them the right to attack old and young for peaceably assembling to protest the misuse of our military in the world.

The only purpose for the police seems to be mind and attitude control as they only protect the poor when they are in conflict with the elitist ideals of what society stands for, or each other. Plato stated that it is up to a government to pay their protective forces as little as possible, to keep them dependant on the system, but now we pay them well enough to ensure that the sysyems rights are upheld above the requests of the poorer segments of societies demands. Much like the way the police appear when there is violence in society, they control our attitude towards those that need the most protection, and the military guarantees that we don't move aggressively by taking up arms against the unfair greed and injustice of a system designed to protect the rights of land owners first over the rights of its citizens to assemble and protest the injustices and inequalities of life in Americas streets.

Meanwhile, the police protect and serve the new colonies of gated communities from the wars in the streets. They're allowed to use the force necessary to quell social unrest while the corrupt government goes about its dirty business safe in knowing they have conspired the perfect cover. To serve and protect them from us- To service and maintain their standard of living.

Some constitution! :roll:


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Sure this is the correct place for this post?
Is this conspiracy .. Just wondering?
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" Some constitution! "

PATRIOT ACT Now Permanent
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0722-07.htm

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 Post subject: Are the police and military part of it?
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Conspiring to present a theory about a society, using police and military as co conspirators to present the image of a sane just society, by enforcing the laws that bind it.


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 Post subject: Your rights or your life?
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Thanks Sir, for your articles. I have heard of Kaminski but never read him. The conspiracy is to enforce here and abroad the rules that society dictates we follow, despite our peaceful demonstrations, like Seattle, where it was obvious that the black hooded vandals were police, sent to instigate an excuse for police retaliation and crowd control. This so a bunch of fucking assholes could plot in peace, the division of world resources. Thanks cops.

This quote from your article on the patriot act.

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The other two provisions -- Section 215, which gives the FBI secret access to people's business, medical, library, bookstore and other shopping records, and Section 206, which authorizes so-called roving wiretaps -- would be renewed for 10 years as part of the vote.


And if successful will be extended as required, expanded to include your church affiliation, childs kindergarten class and whether you breast feed or not. Don't get a library card you potential pinko. Tits are for boob sucking pigs, only.


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 Post subject: Re: Your rights or your life?
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Thanks Sir, for your articles. I have heard of Kaminski but never read him. The conspiracy is to enforce here and abroad the rules that society dictates we follow, despite our peaceful demonstrations, like Seattle, where it was obvious that the black hooded vandals were police, sent to instigate an excuse for police retaliation and crowd control.


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It will be a weird, twisted and most hateful way of getting there, but get there we / they will. The changes will come fast. The days of thought crimes are not far off. Free Speech will be the next victim, watch and see. The net will be zoned and filtered and no free speech allowed and loads of hate laws or gag-laws, as some prefer to call them. First on the Net and then in the Real World. We know all these things are done for only "Good" and "Necessary" reasons though. *Sigh* .. :roll:

Most people really believe that you know? They believe that - those good, honest, trustworthy, oil-soaked politicians are going to take good care of people, when all rights and freedoms are gone. :shock:

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The latest on cops and their attitude. If it was a group who were hired with our best intentions in mind would they act and say things like this?

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Florida Police Chief Sorry For Laughing At FTAA Shooting Victim
In Florida, a police chief has apologized after he was caught on tape laughing about a demonstrator who had been shot in the head. The shooting occurred during the Miami protests against the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas in November of 2003. The demonstrator, Elizabeth Ritter, was hit by police rubber bullets and struck again in the forehead as she lay on the ground. On a newly-released police training video taped the following day, Broward County Major John Brooks is seen telling cheering colleagues: "I was so pumped up about how good you guys were." Another officer is seen imitating the moment Elizabeth Ritter was shot. The officer says: “I don't know who got her but it went right through the sign and hit her smack dab in the middle of her head.” There are six pending lawsuits against the Miami police department for its conduct during the FTAA protests.
This incident is from 2003. Remember it? As if sorry could make up for his blatant prejudices.

Is this their Serve and Protect attitude? Is this who they REALLY serve and protect? Is this what they think of us? We're target practice for their cruel jokes bullets and billies? C'mon, these people are indoctrinated for more than protection of society! These people are protectors and enforcers for the class war that is going on in America and the world. Just another extension of our militaristic mentality. What's good for America is order and discipline so business can go on with minimum resistance. The new motto for the New World Order- Brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood police officer or your gumboot wearing armed service representative. Same difference, just a question of perspectives- like here or say, in Iraq.

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Well said, DO.g's. There have been so many 'incidents' like this. People trying to protect our rights, peaceful demonstrations, are targets for the goon squads.

Heaven help anyone who wants to preserve the environment or stop animal cruelty. Heck, these people don't want to stop human cruelty, let alone animal cruelty.

Our nation is in a sorry state, and I do not see how we are going to right it.

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Since there is no real threat to us externally, except of course the manufactured fear that we have, it seems that they are there to prevent the one thing that is a threat to their hegemony- the people rising up and overthrowing our modern monarcy.

Isn't this what our forefathers were against and told us we had the right to bear arms about? Oh right, they were afraid of the slaves revolting and rising up against them. Well maybe that is the reason why we're constantly told that we're free- so we can't figure out that we're the nouveau esclaves.

I guess they're afraid that we will get smart and overthrow their little tyranny called capitocracy. Is that why we really have a police force and military?

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From Democracy Now-

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NYPD Proposes New Rules to Curtail Protests
In New York, the police department has proposed a new series of regulations that would criminalize many protests in the city. The NYPD wants the city to require that police permits be required for any gathering of 35 or more people on the city’s streets. Currently groups can hold relatively small protests, such as picket lines or vigils, without a permit as long as there is no sound system. In addition the NYPD wants to make it illegal for bikers to ride in groups of more than 20 people without a police permit. Also the police wants the power to arrest any group of two or more pedestrians or cyclists who violate any traffic law, rule or regulation. Under the proposed rules, the police could arrest a couple for parading without a permit if they jaywalked. A public hearing has been scheduled for August 23.

NYC Official Proposes Requiring Nightclubs Videotape Patrons
In a separate initiative, the Speaker of the City Council in New York has proposed that the city’s nightclubs be required to install security cameras at their entrances and exits. The proposal has been widely criticized by New York’s gay community. One longtime gay activist said the idea smacks of Big Brother.


What- no more peaceable assembly of more than 35? Gee, I don't think they trust us. Wonder why?

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police force?

for me thier purpose changes depending upon what type of government they are currently serving under.

in our good ole u.s.a. right now citizens rights are protected and enforced by our police backed up by our living document called the constitution.

but woe to us if martial law is ever declared here and we see FULL implementation of ALL provisions of the patriot act. then the police forces will be more in the gestapo style that the bushicons have been wanting all along in thier new world order.

i'll chew on this more a little later........great thread.






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I know this is off topic, so I will keep it short. rooster, I just noticed that you are an electrician in Local Union 5. Welcome Brother. Local 90 out of New Haven Ct. here.

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that's cool eagle.........how it's goin bro.


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Got these from jaspers post today.

These cops just have to stroke their little penis as often as they can. All that power in their hands makes them feel like gods who can mete out roadside justice whenever they want- and mostly just for the fun of feeling power.

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Trooper Caught On Tape Tasering Motorist
Officials Speed Investigation Into Trooper's Behavior After Clip Appeared On YouTube


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/ ... S._3534130

They oughta tazer the little fascists balls until they shrink into the size of raisins. What a scumbag policeman. The guy did absolutely nothing wrong but "dickwad the sadist dickscum pig" had to go ahead and taze him. I bet if he'd had 3 tazers he would have done the same to the guys wife and baby as well.

If you think he asked for it, wait until you resist the stupidity of these walking penisheads. Cops are supreme dicks when they let the power of authority dictate their lives. Pray for America- it's slipping ever faster into a fascist police state. Who here would let a gumboot fascist dicksucking asshole put his foot on your neck? I'd fix the bastard so his dickhead would never shoot right again.

As if Walking Dickheads isn't enough this comes across the wire-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01444.html

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Cellphone Tracking Powers on Request
Secret Warrants Granted Without Probable Cause
I was wrong about praying for America- it's too late. Accept fascism as your new/same old philosophy.

Lets see- military, industrial, congressional, police, unions,, courts, laws, corporations and religion--- they got it all locked up, stacked up and labelled. High school madness has disappeared to be replaced with this wonderful "Freedom and Liberty" we aspire to having. :roll:

What a wonderful and complete trap they have set to spring on us. Thanks for protecting us from ourselves people. It was fun while the party was happening, but it looks like the parties over for us, and their fun is just begun. There's so many of us who require shock treatment that now the cops are administering it. What a wonderful message we're receiving- Charged, with volts for dolts.

What a system- what a country!!

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