mga wrote:
not to repeat myself, but for me, no god or spiritual being exists, and likewise, no devil, angels, ghosts, etc etc exist either. so, when i look for man's origin or the beginning of time itself, i tend to follow those that are more scientific.
While, on the whole, I agree with this, here is an interesting little tale that anyone has yet to explain to my satisfaction.
While I was in college a girl friend of mine was doing some research for a project and invited me to accompany her on a visit to a *haunted house*. Her reason for asking me was quite simply that I would be SO skeptical of the notion, it would be hard to get any type of ruse past me.
We went to visit an elderly woman who told us that in the time since her husband's death (several years) he remained in the house *waiting for her*. Her story was that he was a man of some habit, and it was, in fact, his habits that remained. She said he came home from work, rocked in a rocking chair until dinner, rocked some more thru the evening, and at a certain time went to bed.
This is what we observed. At more or less the time he would have gotten home, a solid and completley average in every way rocking chair began to move, and continued to slowly rock for a while, then stopped. After a time it resumed. At precisely the appointed time it stopped again, and there was an ordered creaking that sounded like someone going up the stairs (no individual, or indeed entity of any kind was observed, I looked). The sound continued to go down the hall and was followed by a creaking of the bed springs in an upstairs bedroom.
My friend, during the rocking, asked if it would be alright for her to sit in the chair, and when she did she reported that it was a very uncomfortable feeling, as though she were invading something, or somewhere she shouldn't be, She also reported that it was difficult to stop the rocking, so hard, in fact, it fatigued her muscles, and she had to stop trying to stop it, at which point it would resume.
Both of us felt that wierd feeling you get when someone is looking at you from behind the entire time.
The woman, far from being frightened, seemed comforted by it.
We interviewed many people who had seen it many times. Her daughter (who was frightened) and neighbors, visitors, and some people who had come merely to see it. We developed a decent time map that it had happened regualrly for years.
My first big objection to the experience was telekenisis, and the woman was doing it all herself, but both of us agreed it wasn't satisfactory, because we felt the presence, and one of us (me) was completely ready to doubt that as evidence. And besides, the evidence of this level of behavior is extremely rare, and not usually so abrupt in its beginnings or so regular in its manifestations.
Now, I have no idea what I witnessed, other than an old woman comforted in her life by something.
Also, check out this web site. It is also very hard to explain.
http://www.ghostpix.com/
These guys have been debunkled to the nth degree, and what they are doing is, to the limit we can test it, legit, at least in that they are honestly presenting their collected data without overtly creating it behind the scenes.
As I said earlier, there is *something interesting* going on here.
Before you go off on a rant, I have no opinion one way or the other. I simply see this as *something interesting*, and maybe you will, too.