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I'm just going to leave a link here because I'm not sure how the format will come up. Very insightful.

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http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2-ww3-compared.htm


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This is the first site Michael Haupt put on the web. It is a bit paranoid delusional, regressing toward religion with its armageddon overtones. There is a section devoted to the third world war buildup, which uses 911 as a reference point. Check out the readers mostly biased comment pages.

Check out this installment of the real reasons for WWII by Michael Parenti, for American and world involvement in WWII -
http://www.tucradio.org/1116parentifour.mp3 -
then go back to Michael Haupts vague version of the reasons for WWII and why America entered the war. Haupts version is sorely lacking in prior forces that were at work that Parenti brings up, especially our complicity in Hitlers rise, and our need to control fascism and Bolshevik Russia. Hitler and Stalin were to bleed each other white, and more deaths in battles happened in Russia between Russia and Germany than any battle on the western front. We promoted industry in Germany AND gave guns and munitions to Russia. Feed both sides and watch them fight and die.

Fascists defend the rights of the land owner elite, but the communists are a threat to the right wing agenda. This is why we backed Germany and Hitler. We might think about the alliance of the Hitler Chamberlain pact in this light and not dwell on the peace treaty of the Hitler Stalin Pact. Those of us who wish for democracies success might think about the modern implications of our right wing governments alliances with right wing fascist leaders around the world.

The pearl Harbour incident is well documented. The summing up-
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Admiral Husband Kimmel, the commander of the naval forces at Pearl Harbor, clearly places the blame for Pearl Harbor's unpreparedness on President Roosevelt. He has written: "We were unready at Pearl Harbor because President Roosevelt's plans required that no word be sent to alert the fleet in Hawaii."

The Rt Hon. Oliver Lyttleton, a member of Churchill's war cabinet, declared in an address to the American Chamber of Commerce in London on June 24, 1944: "America provoked [the Japanese] to such an extent that the Japanese were forced to attack Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war."

The Council on Foreign Relations published an article in its publication called Foreign Affairs in January, 1974, that agreed with Lyttleton. The article stated that "Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor actually thrust the United States into World War II, but the Roosevelt administration decided a year and a half earlier to risk war in order to prevent the totalitarian domination of all Europe."

So on December 8, 1941, President Roosevelt asked the Congress to declare war on Japan, stating that December 7, 1941 would go down in history as a "day of infamy."

So when Roosevelt addressed the nation through his speech in Congress, he lied when he said: "We don't like it — and we didn't want to get in it — but we are in it and we're going to fight it with everything we've got."

So Roosevelt asked for, and received, a Declaration of War against Japan. Germany followed on December 11th with a Declaration of War against the United States. This action was in accordance with the terms of the Tripartite Treaty signed earlier by Germany, Italy and Japan.

Roosevelt's activities in the planning of Pearl Harbor had a costly price. The final toll was 2,341 U.S. servicemen dead and 1,143 wounded; eighteen ships including the eight battleships were sunk or heavily damaged; more than two hundred Army Air Corps and Navy planes were destroyed or unusable; and sixty-eight civilians were killed.

For his supposed unpreparedness at Pearl Harbor, Admiral Kimmel was relieved of his command, and he retired on January 7, 1942.

After the war was over. Congress looked into the reasons for the lack of preparation at Pearl Harbor. Their conclusions are most revealing:

1)The attack was unprovoked by America;
2)There was no evidence that the President, Secretary of State, Secretary of War, Secretary of Navy, provoked the attack;
3)The American government made every effort to avoid the war with Japan;
4)The attack was caused by the Army's and Navy's failure to detect hostile forces; and
5)The errors made were errors of judgment and not derelictions of duty.

The last conclusion was apparently intended to relieve the commanders of the armed forces from responsibility so that they could not be court-martialed. Admiral Kimmel and General Walter C. Short, the commander of the armed forces at Pearl Harbor, continuously pleaded for a court martial to clear their reputations, but they were never granted.



The parallels to 911 are obvious. Even the # of dead is similar as the government knew Americans would die but didn't care. The greater good was the real purpose.

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Admiral Robert Theobold, the Commander of all destroyers at Pearl Harbor, wrote a book entitled The Final Secret of Pearl Harbor, in which he detailed his conclusions about the "surprise attack." He wrote:

President Roosevelt forced Japan to war and enticed them to initiate hostilities by holding the Pacific fleet in Hawaiian waters as an invitation to that attack;

1)The plans to use Pearl Harbor as the bait started in June, 1940;

2)War with Japan meant war with Germany; and

3)Roosevelt, Marshall and Stark knew about Pearl Harbor 21 hours before the attack.

But in spite of all of this evidence that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was known by Roosevelt and his top advisors well in advance of that actual event, there are those who still hold to the position that the government, and Roosevelt specifically, knew nothing about it.

So America now had a two-front war against Japan in the Pacific and against Germany in Europe.

Just as planned!


If he stuck to facts leading up to WWIII instead of prophecies and delusions, but it is mere prophetic speculation. Someone should send for his newsletter and his references to Nostradamus as a fake. Again, if he would bring in the assumptions about Nostradamus and having to hide from the Inquisition his visions, like he has done with The WWI,WWII, WWIII, assumptions.

About Hitler.
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The planning of the Second World War started when Adolf Hitler joined a secret society called the Thule Society in 1919. It was in this group that he found the perverted beliefs that were later to lead him in his control of the German government.


Again with those occult secret societies. Seems to be a pattern we associate with our leaders. They're all satanists driven on by these organisations. Perhaps they're just perverted by their dreams and delusions in their attempts at world financial control. We of course are the incidental victims caught in their schemes and plans. The sacrifice for power.


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